In this episode, I speak to former pastor and author Karl Forehand about his journey out of the shadows of his false self and into the light, what he learned about God through his relationships with his own children, and his forthcoming book, "Apparent Faith: What Fatherhood Taught Me About The Father's Heart", which will release on July 1st. You can follow Karl on Facebook here. You can purchase his book "Apparent Faith" here on July 1st. Get bonus content on Patreon Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information. Connect with the crew : You can find Lola on Facebook , Instagram , and TikTok You can find Kyle on Facebook , Instagram , and TikTok. You can find Jason on Facebook , Instagram , and Threads (because he's way too old for TikTok). Be sure to check out our Youtube channel. Also, please join the conversation over on our Messy Conversations group on FB! Thanks for listening! Please leave us a rating or review and subscribe or follow the show on your platform of choice!