Episode 57 of the podcast features our most requested guest ever, Dr. C. Baxter Kruger! Baxter is a theologian, writer [and fishing lure designer] and the Director of Perichoresis Ministries. He is a native of Prentiss, Mississippi. He and his wife Beth have been married for 30 years and have four children. A life long student of psychology, he has degrees in political science, divinity, and earned his PhD.from Kings College, Aberdeen University in Aberdeen, Scotland under Professor James B. Torrance. He is the author of 8 books, including The Great Dance, Jesus and the Undoing of Adam and Across All Worlds, the international bestseller, The Shack Revisited, and Patmos. He has recently written a powerful essay on “The Mediation of Jesus Christ” that I look forward to unpacking with him today. He teaches around the world. He is an avid outdoorsman and holds two United States patents for his fishing lure designs. He is also the founder and President of Mediator Lures. This episode is part one of our conversation. Part two will release next week. You can find Baxter's website here. The essay that we refer to in this conversation, "The Mediation of Jesus Christ", is available to download for free here. You can follow Baxter on Facebook here. You can follow our podcast on Facebook , Instagram , and Twitter. Please join our private Facebook group exclusively for listeners of this podcast, Messy Conversations. Be sure to answer the quick membership questions for fast approval! Please take a moment to subscribe to, rate, and review our podcast on your podcast platform of choice to help new ears find their way to us. Finally, please consider supporting our podcast via Patreon. As our way of saying thanks for your monthly support, you'll get exclusive early access to every new episode of the podcast as well as patron only videos and articles! Click here to join the ranks of our beloved patrons today. We really appreciate all of your support! Thanks for listening! Get bonus content on Patreon Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information. Connect with the crew : You can find Lola on Facebook , Instagram , and TikTok You can find Kyle on Facebook , Instagram , and TikTok. You can find Jason on Facebook , Instagram , and Threads (because he's way too old for TikTok). Be sure to check out our Youtube channel. Also, please join the conversation over on our Messy Conversations group on FB! Thanks for listening! Please leave us a rating or review and subscribe or follow the show on your platform of choice!