I'm joined on this episode by two of our favorite apostates, Matthew J. Distefano and Keith Giles. We discuss the recent criticism of deconstruction by many within evangelicalism. Are any of their criticisms fair? How should we respond when we feel unfairly attacked? Matthew J. Distefano is an author, podcaster, and Patheos columnist. His latest book is entitled " The Genesis of Violence ". Keith Giles is an author, speaker, podcaster, and Patheos columnist. His latest book is entitled " Jesus Unarmed: How the Prince of Peace Disarms Our Violence ". Together, Matthew and Keith co-host the Apostates Anonymous podcast. They are also co-hosts of The Heretic Happy Hour podcast. Keith also hosts the Second Cup with Keith podcast. You can find Matthew's columns on Patheos here. You can find Keith's columns on Patheos here. Check out Keith's upcoming Awaken 2022 event in Nashville, TN here. If you'd like to help us produce future episodes of the podcast, you can contribute via Venmo and Cash App at @messyspirituality. Thanks so much for listening! Get bonus content on Patreon Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information. Connect with the crew : You can find Lola on Facebook , Instagram , and TikTok You can find Kyle on Facebook , Instagram , and TikTok. You can find Jason on Facebook , Instagram , and Threads (because he's way too old for TikTok). Be sure to check out our Youtube channel. Also, please join the conversation over on our Messy Conversations group on FB! Thanks for listening! Please leave us a rating or review and subscribe or follow the show on your platform of choice!