Episode 43 of the podcast features one of the most encouraging people I know-Kyle Butler! Kyle got his start in ministry when he was just 13 years old. He was ordained at the age of 21. Five years later he was installed as the pastor of the church he grew up in. In 2008, Kyle received a revelation of grace that changed his life and ministry forever. As his understanding of grace increased, Kyle began to understand the unconditional love of God and humanity's oneness with God. Kyle is one of two co-hosts of Graceline every Monday evening at 8PM Eastern on Facebook Live. He is featured on the 3 Cord broadcasts on FB Live every Thursday evening at 7PM Eastern. He can also be seen on Sunday mornings at 9AM Eastern broadcasting on the Global Online Ministry Alliance on FB. Kyle is a contributor to the Too Many Podcasters broadcasts and podcasts and is a featured speaker at the upcoming NOMAD 2020 virtual conference. Kyle and I talked about his evolving faith, loving people we disagree with, and humanity's relationship to the Divine. You really don't want to miss this conversation. You can visit Kyle's website here. You can find Kyle on Facebook here. Register today for the NOMAD 2020 virtual conference featuring Kyle Butler, Keith Giles, Katy Valentine, PK Langley, Derrick Day, Karl and Laura Forehand, Cody and Elaine Johnston, Todd Vick, Bill Thrasher, and me! The early bird all access rate is just $29 and is only available for a few more days. So register here today! Please join us on our Facebook group exclusively for listeners of this podcast- Messy Conversations. I'd be incredibly grateful for your support on Patreon where you can get perks (like early access to every new episode!) as our way of saying thanks for helping us produce this podcast! Click here for more info. Thanks for listening! We truly appreciate your support! Get bonus content on Patreon Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information. Connect with the crew : You can find Lola on Facebook , Instagram , and TikTok You can find Kyle on Facebook , Instagram , and TikTok. You can find Jason on Facebook , Instagram , and Threads (because he's way too old for TikTok). Be sure to check out our Youtube channel. Also, please join the conversation over on our Messy Conversations group on FB! Thanks for listening! Please leave us a rating or review and subscribe or follow the show on your platform of choice!