June 1, 2019

See my previous articles on this book (especially the first), for necessary background:

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Dr. Marshall was an Anglican priest prior to 2006. As would have been the case then, once again he (ultimately) accepts neither the authority of popes nor of ecumenical councils, if they happen to clash with his own preconceived views. It’s the Protestant (and “Enlightenment”) principle of private judgment and exaggerated personal autonomy; part and parcel of both heterodox Catholic liberals and of self-consistent Protestants.

I’ve noted this about reactionary thought for many years. They think they are so Catholic: much more than the rest of us poor ignorant peasants (they “get” it; they’re the elite and the cream of the crop: so they constantly tell themselves), but in fact they are steeped in the principles of “do your own thing” / “arbitrarily pick and choose” cafeteria Catholic authority of the very liberal dissident Catholics whom they despise.

Consistent, observant, pious, devout Catholics always exercise the utmost respect for ecumenical councils and for popes (and that does not necessarily reduce to ultramontanism and “papolatry”). They don’t sit around making videos (with all of 13 years of lived Catholicism) mocking and disparaging both councils and popes, and lecturing all the rest of us, as if they possess Catholic authority. It’s a disgrace.

St. Paul and St. James condemned and warned about this sort of thing:

2 Timothy 4:3-4 (RSV) For the time is coming when people will not endure sound teaching, but having itching ears they will accumulate for themselves teachers to suit their own likings,[4] and will turn away from listening to the truth and wander into myths.

1 Timothy 4:7 Have nothing to do with godless and silly myths. Train yourself in godliness;

2 Timothy 2:23 Have nothing to do with stupid, senseless controversies; you know that they breed quarrels.

James 3:1, 6-12 Let not many of you become teachers, my brethren, for you know that we who teach shall be judged with greater strictness. . . . [6] And the tongue is a fire. The tongue is an unrighteous world among our members, staining the whole body, setting on fire the cycle of nature, and set on fire by hell. [7] For every kind of beast and bird, of reptile and sea creature, can be tamed and has been tamed by humankind, [8] but no human being can tame the tongue — a restless evil, full of deadly poison. [9] With it we bless the Lord and Father, and with it we curse men, who are made in the likeness of God. [10] From the same mouth come blessing and cursing. My brethren, this ought not to be so. [11] Does a spring pour forth from the same opening fresh water and brackish? [12] Can a fig tree, my brethren, yield olives, or a grapevine figs? No more can salt water yield fresh.

St. Paul showed more respect for the Jewish high priest who was opposing Christianity, than reactionaries do to popes:

Acts 23:1-5 And Paul, looking intently at the council, said, “Brethren, I have lived before God in all good conscience up to this day.” [2] And the high priest Anani’as commanded those who stood by him to strike him on the mouth. [3] Then Paul said to him, “God shall strike you, you whitewashed wall! Are you sitting to judge me according to the law, and yet contrary to the law you order me to be struck?” [4] Those who stood by said, “Would you revile God’s high priest?” [5] And Paul said, “I did not know, brethren, that he was the high priest; for it is written, `You shall not speak evil of a ruler of your people.'”

A Facebook friend asked me on my Facebook page:

David, is this a fair, even if flippant, summary of your view on Vatican II and the subsequent crises?:

“Nothing bad that happened after the Council can be blamed, even the tiniest smidgen, on the Council, because it never committed heresy or error. Only the good events after the Council can possibly be counted as its fruit.”

Okay. Doesn’t that seem to be just as ideologically possessed as the rad trad point of view? Isn’t it unlikely that the documents are really free of all important defects whatsoever, in view of the subsequent state of the Church? I say: the documents never commit error, but owing to some emphases and ambiguities, the heterodox forces of the Church have been able to derive aid and comfort from the Council (unlike, say, Lateran IV, Trent, or Vatican I). One can be loyal and faithful, and still criticize a council. Right?

Here was my reply:

It comes down to what one believes about ecumenical councils. It’s a matter of faith. Traditionally, Catholics have believed that they are guided by the Holy Spirit. They possess infallible authority if they authoritatively clarify long-held doctrines, in agreement with the pope.

There have always been scoundrels and palace intrigue at every council, because men are sinners. And there has been uproar and confusion after every council, too. If people knew their Church history, they would know this, and the current problems would be put in much better perspective. It’s nothing new. It’s not the end of the Church as we know and love her. St. Paul was struggling with the Corinthian and Galatian churches (even including sexual sin). There is nothing new under the sun. So, for example, Joseph Francis Kelly writes:

This initial ecumenical council foreshadowed elements of many others, one of which was a confused reaction following the council. . . . historically speaking, after councils some participants often have second thoughts about what happened or are surprised at the reaction of others to the council’s work. (The Ecumenical Councils of the Catholic Church: A History, Liturgical Press, 2009, p. 25)

You say heterodox forces didn’t derive comfort from Vatican I? You don’t know your history very well. Have you never heard of the Old Catholics and their rejection of papal infallibility? That was a schism in the Church due to that council. They dissed the council, just as Taylor Marshall is now doing with Vatican II.

This is why indefectibility is such a glorious guarantee. It overcomes the attempts of men to wreck things and destroy the faith. Taylor Marshall and people who think as he does can only see evil men, plots, and (supposedly successful) wicked conspiracies. We are looking at it with the eyes of faith, and see a God Who is much bigger than all that, who can turn around even the worst of situations. Chesterton stated: “at least five times in history the Church has gone to the dogs, but in each case, the dog died.”

Vatican II is completely orthodox and a wonderful exposition of the Catholic faith. It’s an ecumenical council. It has the same authority as Trent (Cardinal Ratzinger stated that in The Ratzinger Report, 1985).

One thing Catholics have believed, too, is that doctrine continues to develop and is ever more understood. Vatican II is completely orthodox and a wonderful exposition of the Catholic faith. It’s an ecumenical council. Catholics believe that doctrine continues to develop and is ever more understood. Blessed Cardinal Newman classically explained that in 1845 in his Essay on the Development of Christian Doctrine (key in my own conversion in 1990). Vatican II is part of that. This is why we love it or should love it. It is the fully developed Mind of the Church in our time, along with the papal encyclicals of the last 60 years, including St. Paul VI’s heroic Humanae Vitae (1968) and St. John Paul II’s magnificent Evangelium Vitae (1995).

Taylor Marshall seems to have a very stunted, limited understanding of these things. And in my opinion, it’s because he has reverted and digressed back to the ecclesiological pablum of his former Anglicanism.

I came into the Church due to the influence of Cardinal Newman, who explained development of doctrine and why the Anglican Church had fundamentally flawed premises. Taylor seems to have a dim comprehension of that, too, or else he would never be tempted to reject essential Catholic things like reverence for popes and the sublime authority of ecumenical councils, and return to the false and half-baked presuppositions of the Anglican slop.

Dr. Marshall is still a Catholic. That’s why it is such a disgrace and scandal. One could handle such bilge if it wasn’t coming from a professed, canonical Catholic. But he’s not thinking as a Catholic should think. This is my point.

So when I say that Taylor has become an Anglican, I mean in spirit, in how he thinks about authority; in important presuppositions that are hostile to Catholicism rightly understood. But he is canonically a Catholic. That’s exactly why I refer to these folks as radical Catholic reactionaries.

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The twisting of a thing is completely different from the thing itself (throwing the baby out with the bath water). The Bible itself is twisted and distorted and abused all the time. Does it follow that it is a bad thing, to be rejected? Obviously not. I detest the myths about Vatican II that lead to this sort of bilge of people rejecting it altogether, rather than the thinking of folks who lie about what it teaches and pretend that it teaches false notions that it never in fact taught.

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Lastly, I agree that many groups have tried to infiltrate and subvert the Church. The radical homosexuals are the ones in our day. The liberals have been trying to wreck Catholicism since the French Revolution. My mentor, Servant of God Fr. John A. Hardon, SJ (who received me into the Church and enthusiastically endorsed my first book, A Biblical Defense of Catholicism) said often that modernism is the culmination of all heresies, and that the modernist crisis is the greatest in the history of the Church. I agree 100%!

My response to that, though, is that the Church is led and protected by the Holy Spirit and is indefectible; therefore, all such attempts fail in the long run. Reactionaryism is the counsel of despair. The orthodox Catholic is always hopeful and believes that God is in control and that all things work together for good (Romans 8:28).

Conspiratorialism is a dead-end street; the fool’s way out, and a plain dumb and intellectually naive and vacant interpretation of very complex events and ideas. Much better is traditional Catholic grace-empowered faith: particularly in the indefectibility of the Church, God’s providence, and the scriptural knowledge that sinners are always present in the Church (parable of the wheat and tares, seven churches of Revelation, etc.).

In this vision and way of life, we know and believe that God is always in control and protects Holy Mother Church despite our repeated attempts to bring it down to the dirt and filth of human sin and nefarious aspirations for power, rebellion against God, and all the rest.

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Photo credit: May Morning on Magdalen Tower (1890), by William Holman Hunt (1827-1910) [public domain / Wikimedia Commons]

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May 31, 2019

This occurred on my Facebook page. Dave Kjeldgaard is a longtime Facebook friend. The discussion is occuring within the backdrop of my two critical articles from yesterday: Reactionary Infiltration of Taylor Marshall’s Book, Infiltration  and Anti-Vatican II Hysteria in Taylor Marshall’s Book Fan Club.  Dave’s words will be in blue.

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I still think he is a solid Catholic who is human who makes mistakes, who is highly concerned with the state of the Church and remains an outstanding teacher.

It’s hard to see someone we respect start teaching goofy, wacky things . . . He’s not an outstanding teacher if he is leading people astray by lying about popes and crapping all over ecumenical councils of Holy Mother Church. That’s not orthodox Catholicism. It’s no better than the liberal dissidents like Hans Kung et al.

Dave, curious if you ever tried to reach out to him? Your criticism of Taylor Marshall seems like it’s personal. Name calling, mind reading, etc. Makes me think there is an underlying issue you have with him.

I’m responding publicly to public materials. I could try to send an e-mail, etc., but almost certainly nothing would come of it. I know how these things work. I’ve been through it a hundred times. I’m perfectly willing to talk with anyone. It takes two.

I’ve already heard reports from people with whom he was friendly, and it is now tense and distant. His likely response is indicated by already having blocked me from his Twitter. I have no personal issues at all, as I stated in my paper: none whatsoever. Zero, zilch. This is about defense of Holy Mother Church against calumnies.

You like him, and so you can’t see these things right now. You “don’t have eyes to see”: as the Bible says. You have to get beyond that. If something is wrong and contrary to the Church, you (and anyone else who is his “fan”) ought to oppose it, and not put man’s opinions and traditions of men against sacred tradition, protected by the Holy Spirit. Don’t be led astray. The Church is our Guide.

Lots of mind reading there. I don’t confuse his teaching from NSTI and his podcasts. I don’t agree with his opinion on B16 retirement, and some others. Your criticism of him seems like a hit piece in my opinion. Kind of Mark Shea-ish.

Glad to hear you disagree with him on some things. Start refuting my critique, if it is so bad. Give me some content (i.e., theology, ecclesiology). Just sitting there attacking me accomplishes nothing. All I’ve done is to critique the theological opinions he is rendering: all public ones.

The only “responses” I have received so far were two personal attacks from Taylor followers on my blog. One disparaged me as a “hippy” modernist from Detroit who used to be a Methodist. LOL Another was far more personally insulting and ridiculous. Really? And Taylor used to be an Anglican.

Yeah, we’re converts! He came in in 2006 and now wants to lecture popes and dismiss ecumenical councils. I was received in 1991 by Servant of God Fr. John A Hardon, SJ (of absolutely impeccable orthodoxy; he was the catechist for St. Teresa of Calcutta’s Missionaries of Charity), who warmly endorsed my first book three years later.

Go ask him if he’d want to do a dialogue with me. You’ll see what happens. I would be absolutely delighted to be wrong in my prediction.

We live in an age today where every criticism of ideas is immediately collapsed into a supposed personal attack. It’s the influence of postmodernist subjective mush. Now, assuredly a lot of personal attacks do take place online. But my critique of Taylor Marshall’s errors is not an example of that.

So you consider my comments to be an attack? Certainly not my intention.

“Your criticism of him seems like a hit piece in my opinion. Kind of Mark Shea-ish.”

You haven’t rendered even one constructive criticism of my many arguments. Feel free to do so!

That’s because I don’t have any criticisms of your argument. Just questioning your approach and tone.

Fair enough. And I respond by saying that my “tone” (whatever it is) about a fellow lay apologist is infinitely less harsh and objectionable than his against Holy Mother Church, an ecumenical council, three saint-popes, the Holy Mass (ordinary form), etc.: where all Catholics ought to be deferential and respectful.

I think he will respond charitably, respectfully, admit where he is wrong, and make corrections where necessary.

Great. I look forward to that. We’ll see how open he is to dialogue and possible correction. It’s one thing preaching to the adoring choir; quite another, dealing with a substantive critique from someone who is trained in his field to offer one.

“preaching to the adoring choir “: is that not directly out of the Mark Shea playbook? Geesh.

Not at all. “preaching to the choir” is a well-known proverb. “Adoring” is not out of line, seeing that we now have 776 customer reviews on Amazon, for a book that has been out exactly eight days. Have you ever seen such a thing before? I haven’t.

Phil Lawler’s similar pope-bashing book (Lost Shepherd) has been out for 15 months and it has 63 reviews. Ross Douthat’s similar book (To Change the Church) has been out almost exactly a year and it has 56. Even famous and Internet-savvy Karl Keating could muster up only 19 reviews for his Francis Feud: also out for a year now. But Taylor Marshall has 776 in eight days.

89% of ’em are 5 stars, 10% are 4 stars, exactly seven are three stars (0.9%), There are no one-star and two-star reviews. If that is not an “adoring” / “preaching to the choir” scenario, I don’t know what is.

It’s largely the same on his Twitter page and You Tube video comboxes: a bunch of cheerleading clones. That’s why I called him a “pied piper.” Yes, it’s sarcastic humor. But it clearly fits.

This is part of the danger of becoming a big celebrity in Catholic circles. Critical thought is thrown out the window, and a person in that situation only — or almost always — talks to people who agree with them. It’s extremely dangerous spiritually and theologically.

I’m the opposite. I am constantly in dialogue with folks who disagree with me. I’m not in a bubble with only a fan club. I’m constantly insulted; my income is a pitiful pittance . . . I’m in very little danger of these sorts of things.

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Photo credit: 3dman_eu (11-11-11) [PixabayPixabay License]

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May 30, 2019

Infiltration: The Plot to Destroy the Church from Within, by Dr. Taylor Marshall, is currently taking Amazon by storm. I wrote an analysis of it today in which I noted that the bashing of the Second Vatican Council was a prominent motif. Such a “spirit” (pun intended) is a prominent characteristic of radical Catholic reactionary thought. I have found, through the years, that much of the criticism directed towards this ecumenical council of Holy Mother Church falls prey to the good ol’ post hoc ergo propter hoc logical fallacy. The Wikipedia entry on this erroneous and sloppy thinking describes it:

(Latin: “after this, therefore because of this”) is an informal fallacy that states “Since event Y followed event X, event Y must have been caused by event X.” . . . Post hoc is a particularly tempting error because correlation appears to suggest causality. The fallacy lies in a conclusion based solely on the order of events, rather than taking into account other factors potentially responsible for the result that might rule out the connection. A simple example is “the rooster crows immediately before sunrise; therefore the rooster causes the sun to rise.”

I wrote just last month about Vatican II, along these lines, replying to someone who noted (like Taylor Marshall has — very Voris-like — in his book) that U.S. church membership has “been in decline since Vatican II”:

There was also this thing called “the 60s” and the sexual revolution . . . But people prefer to blame an orthodox ecumenical council. . . .

Liturgical abuses: absolutely. Fault of the council: no. And VCII said the Latin should be retained (too). It wasn’t in most places, but obviously that is counter to the wishes of the council, too. . . . Many parishes ignored that. Blame them, not the council. . . .

Yet it seems to get blamed for everything because people can’t figure out causation of complex issues and would rather sink to conspiratorialism. . . .

VCII did not change “no salvation outside the Church” in the least. It was Trent (following Augustine contra the Donatists 1100 years earlier) that declared that non-Catholic trinitarian baptism was a valid sacrament, and that those who received it were truly Christians and members of the Body of Christ.

Dr. Marshall undertook a clever campaign of amassing over 500 people (currently, 533 as I write) to endorse his book in reviews on Amazon. There is nothing wrong with this (it’s pure capitalism). But it does provide an opportunity to see what sort of outlook typifies those who are gung-ho about the book and “pied piper” Taylor Marshall’s recently acquired reactionary conspiratorialism.

I thought it would be instructive to survey these reviews to see what was written about Vatican II (which Cardinal Ratzinger in 1985 said had precisely the same authority as the Council of Trent):

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1) Pope Paul VI and those whom he empowered did their best to destroy the traditions of the Catholic Church and thereby the Church itself.

2) Marshall does an excellent job pointing out the infiltrating major players: Freemasonry, the Enlightenment, communism, Jesuits, modernism, false ecumenism, and abandonment of Thomistic theological precision for theological ambiguity (which eventually led to weaponized ambiguity deliberately inserted into Vatican II documents). Satan, of course, is behind it all.

3) I will forever consider Michael Davies’s “Liturgical Time Bombs in Vatican II” to be my go-to “quick read” recommendation for those seeking to understand where this crisis began in terms of liturgy, doctrine, and Vatican II, . . .

4)  Dr. Marshall connects all the dots. From the Freemasons, to Modernism, Vatican II, the Norvos [sic] Ordo, Fatima, Pope Benedict’s resignation, and others, you will see how these dots all connect to show how all of this is the Devil’s work himself to destroy the Church.

5) Being a pre-Vatican II Catholic, I have watched with dismay as the Church I love has disintegrated into the wasteland that it is today. 6

6)  Vatican II was not Modernism’s beginning in our church, but rather its coming out party!7

7) There is a tendency to blame these conditions on Vatican II, and that sense is justified.

8) This book clearly explains the reasons for the convening of Vatican II and the organizations, people and anti Catholic forces behind its destructive and anti Catholic actions.

9) Dr. Marshall connects the ‘infiltration’ clues surrounding the Freemasons; Bella Dodd; warnings of Our Lady at Fatima & La Salette; the Vatican bank scandals; the Sankt Gallen Mafia; secret societies; Communism; Vatican II; the Sicilian Mafia; and more. In different ways, these man-made scandals contributed to the erosion of the Church’s moral authority and led to the dilution of the Liturgy over the past several decades.

10)   Vatican II, for example, did not give rise to Modernism in the Church, but it might be said that Modernism gave rise to many developments at Vatican II. . . . Modernism is now widely accepted among hierarchs, clergy, and laity. It, too, is rationally and theologically incompatible with historic Christianity. Yet, Dr. Marshall sees it on display at Vatican II.

11) This is an excellent overview of the situation within the Church and why the return to order must include the rejection of Vatican II and the rediscovery of the Roman Rite of the Mass.

12) He rightly points out that the current crisis in the Church IS modernism, and while Vatican II may have been a tipping point, the “Infiltration” started a long time ago.

13) Marshall finds that the infiltration of the Freemasons, humanists, and the modernistic “nouvelle” theologians (e.g., Karl Rahner, Hans Urs von Balthasar, Walter Kasper, Joseph Ratzinger, Edward Schillebeeckx, Johann Baptist Metz, etc.; 134-35) who introduced the Novus Ordo Mass and highly influenced the Second Vatican Council, led to the perversion of the “supernatural religion of the crucified and resurrected Jesus Christ” of the Church into the “natural religion” that emphasizes the Human over the Divine (i.e., Satanism; 4).

14) Undoubtedly, many effects of Vatican II have been negative and have contributed to the current situation.

15) The poisonous fruits of Vatican II worked to make a religion more pleasing to man, not God, and we are reaping that rotten harvest right now.

16) Plots, intrigue, and evil manipulations are shown to shape the Second Vatican Council . . .

17) . . . changes in Vatican II that I feel weakened the Church.

18) . . . Vatican II where the enemies within the church clearly revealed themselves.

19) Dr. Marshall names, names and shows all of us that Vatican II was only one part of the devil’s plan to destroy the Church from within.

20) I once thought Vatican II was the catalyst for the infiltration of the Church but after reading this book, I know see that it was the victory lap.

21) . . . the Modernist revolution of Vatican II doctrinal confusion . . .

22)  Dr. Marshall explains this apparent reversal of policy towards these heresies as the result of Freemasons, Communists, and other liberal theologians as having infiltrated the Church in the years prior to the Vatican II Council. The Council was their Coming Out Party.

23) I made my first communion just prior to Vatican II and soon after that it seemed that almost everything I had been taught and believed was changing. Now I understand why.

24) Important events (the demise of the Papal States, the infiltration of the Church by Communists and Freemasons, the errors that were introduced at Vatican II by the modernists, . . .

25) Most people wouldn’t know that the freemasons are very active in Italy, reaching into Vatican 2 itself. . . . the bomb that was Vatican II . . .

26) Dr. Marshall provides a short explanation of the Nouvelle Theologie and its impact on the major players of Vatican II, as well as some of the problematic documents of that Council and why they matter.

27) [M]any are waking up and trying to understand how and why their Holy Church is in crisis. Taylor Marshall clears all that up with a concise walk through Catholic Church history displaying the true nature of how events and the rise of Freemasonry 300 years ago lead to the drastic changes of Vatican II.

28) It was shocking that at Vatican II, Protestant clergy were given the right to interfere in the making of those documents, clearly showing that the Catholic church was manipulated, subverted and Protestantized.

29) Chapter 19 is a detailed account of the theological ruin and infiltration of Vatican II . . .

30) Marshall argues that Vatican II was just the coming out party of 100 years of a slow and methodical infiltration of the Church’s ideology.

31) Marshall traces the polluted bloodline of Marxist-Modernist footmen, arrogantly maneuvering from within the Church to cast aside the richness, the beauty, and the Truth of the Tridentine Liturgy. These relentless conspirators in clerical camouflage understood the inherent strength of the Tridentine Liturgy and the downstream impact of concealing it away from the hearts of future generations—thus the poisonous results of Vatican II.

32) I have read numerous books on the current state of the Church, the issues with Vatican Council II, the freemasons, and the communist infiltration of the Church. But this book has put all of these issues together, with a timeline showing the interconnectedness that has led us to the current crisis.

33) This is a very relevant book for anyone who wants to understand the root-cause of the problems facing the Catholic Church today, would highly recommend. Dr. Marshall breaks down chronologically where the source of the problems began, how it manifested in Vatican II all the way through to the current Pontificate.

34)  I found the evidence of Vatican II procuring the decline of the Church and how that was the target goal in losing faithful Christians.

35) The transformation of Catholic doctrine and liturgy had its apotheosis in Vatican II.

36) Dr. Marshall explains why Vatican II ended up being the byproduct of a sophisticated and shrewd plan devised over a hundred and fifty years ago.

37) Dr. Taylor Marshall presents the conspiracy theory that the Roman Catholic Church has been infiltrated with thousands of priests, bishops and even popes with the nafarious [sic] intent of destroying this ancient institution. . . . This story has taken more than 150 years to unravel and has involved Freemasons, the Communist Party, The Italian mafia, Benito Mussilini [sic], Marian apparitions, The Second Vatican Council, Agatha Christie, thousands of priests, bishops and cardinals, some of whom were homosexuals and pedophiles, and 11 Popes.

38) [T]he author succintly [sic] described the ideas and people behind modernism and Nouvelle Theologie. As crucial as both these ideas were to the Second Vatican Council, I have never been able to find such a good and useful “short” summary as Dr. Marshall’s treatment here.

39) I also never thought about how dangerous Vatican II was . . .

40) Marshall sees only Archbishop Lefebvre as the one prophet to fully comprehend the magnitude of the changes brought about by Vatican II. Lefebvre became then the point man for the resistance to the Modernism and the infiltration of the Church — and he is recognized for his role more and more by even conservatives in the Novus Ordo.

41) Vatican II, which the author refers to as “modernism on display” did not make the Catholic Church a friendlier place and was actually harmful to the laity.

42) He shows us how this “Smoke of Satan” entered into Holy Mother Church with everything from Freemasonry, the Illuminati, Socialism, Communism, Homosexuality, and today’s Modernism. All of which left us vulnerable and the door wide open to the many “radical reforms” of Vatican II. His book also demonstrates with in depth detail the key players that shredded the Holy Sacrifice of the Mass we’ve had for centuries into what we’re left with today. A Mass that may look similar, but is devoid of the supernatural Divine content of the Ages.

43) The average Catholic will now know . . . that we are not bound to accept/adhere to the documents or the “spirit” which came from that council.

44) Vatican II is the culmination of years of infiltration by men who often presented a facade of obedience to the magisterium, but were working actively behind the scenes to undermine it.

45) The book also makes clear why Vatican II is not the cause of Catholicism’s current crisis, but the result of a carefully worked out plan to take control of the Papacy and Church teachings.

46) One thing is clear: if the Church is going to defeat this satanic infiltration, it must reject all things Vatican II and this book does an excellent job of explaining why that is the case.

47)  My favorite section of Infiltration is the chapter on Vatican II and Novus Ordo Missae because Dr. Marshall provides important historical facts on the inception of Vatican II, the “engineers” of the document, and the challenge of Modernism.

48) He names names, cites sources, and lays out the map of the corruptive and evil influences that led to the confusion of Vatican Council II and its disastrous fall out.

2 Timothy 4:3-4 (RSV) For the time is coming when people will not endure sound teaching, but having itching ears they will accumulate for themselves teachers to suit their own likings, [4] and will turn away from listening to the truth and wander into myths.

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“I have chills & am in tears doing research for my new book on Infiltration of the Catholic Church. THERE IS SO MUCH EVIL IN SANKT GALLEN. IT WILL ROCK THE CHURCH. Like Natcha Jaitt, I’m not suicidal. If anything happens to me it was a murder. Pray for me. Book due in May 2019.”

— Dr. Taylor Marshall, 3-6-19 on Twitter

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Now, for the actual orthodox ecclesiological teaching of Holy Mother Church (over against reactionary, conspiratorial pied pipers), see the following articles on my blog, regarding the full orthodoxy and spiritually rich and more fully developed true content of the Second Vatican Council, the Mind of the Church, and the sublime authority of Holy Spirit-protected ecumenical councils:

Conciliar Infallibility: Summary from Church Documents [6-5-98]

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May 30, 2019

Infiltration: The Plot to Destroy the Church from Within, by Dr. Taylor Marshall, is currently taking Amazon by storm:

Hardcover (5-31-19):

Amazon Best Sellers Rank: #146 in Books (See Top 100 in Books)

#1 in Christian Church History (Books)
#1 in Christian Institutions & Organizations (Books)
#1 in History of Religions

Kindle Version (5-23-19):

Amazon Best Sellers Rank: #799 Paid in Kindle Store (See Top 100 Paid in Kindle Store)

#1 in Catholicism (Kindle Store)
#1 in Religious Studies – Church & State
#2 in Church & State Religious Studies

It is mere recycled radical Catholic reactionary conspiratorialism: a sort of updated version of The Great Facade (2002; updated with a 2nd edition in 2015: in order to capitalize on the anti-Francis hysteria), by Christopher Ferrara and Thomas Woods. Marshall has been sinking more and more into the doom-and-gloom abyss of reactionary thinking for several years now.

I will be examining its blatant reactionary aspects and simply citing from the book (what might be called “sociological exposing of extremist elements”) and identifying plain and obvious examples of three of the four classic hallmarks of radical Catholic reactionary beliefs:

1) Pope-bashing (I will concentrate on bashing of popes other than Pope Francis).

2) Vatican II-bashing.

3) Pauline / New / “Novus Ordo” / ordinary form Mass-bashing.

[the fourth common element is ecumenism-bashing, which is also assuredly a strong motif in the book]

I’ve applied this same method of analysis / exposure to several of the “statements” against Pope Francis and books or articles that criticized Pope Francis and also other popes, Vatican II, and the New Mass:

“Nothing New”: Reactionary Attacks on Pope St. John Paul II [4-9-05; with tie-in endnote added on 3-2-18]

Peter Kwasniewski, Fr. Thomas Kocik and a Growing Chorus Disagree with Pope Benedict XVI Regarding the Ordinary Form of the Roman Rite Mass (Or, Reports of the Death of the Reform of the Reform are Greatly Exaggerated)  [+ Part Two] [2-24-14]

Who’s Defending Pope Benedict’s  Summorum Pontificum Now? [2-26-14]

Michael Voris on Pope Benedict’s “Immoral” Resignation, Questionable Illness [12-15-15]

Radical Reactionary Affinities in “Filial Correction” Signatories [9-28-17]

Reactionary Influence: Correctio & June 2016 Criticism of the Pope [10-3-17; expanded on 1-24-18]

Phil Lawler’s Lost Shepherd: My One-Star Amazon Review [2-26-18]

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Negative Reactionary Views of Popes Since 1958 [3-18-18]

Debate on Ross Douthat’s Critical Views of Vatican II [3-26-18]

Henry Sire of Dictator Pope Infamy: Reactionary Extremist [3-27-18]

Superstition About the “Preserved” High Altar at Notre Dame (And Continued Cynical, Highly Selective, “Pick and Choose” Acceptance of the Teaching of Pope Benedict XVI) [4-17-19]

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In other words, to sum it up: “It ain’t just Pope Francis.” It’s radical Catholic reactionary conspiratorial / alarmist / fanatical thinking (to more or less degrees, depending on the document). That’s why — increasingly — those who attack Pope Francis also are frequently observed attacking Pope Benedict XVI, Pope St. John Paul II, Pope St. Paul VI, and Pope St. John XXIII (even sometimes Ven. Pope Pius XII, too), and/or Vatican II, and/or the ordinary form Mass.

Ironically, Taylor Marshall — in 2013 — defined “radical traditionalists” almost exactly the way I define the group I coined as “radical Catholic reactionaries” (which now, sadly, includes himself). Karl Keating wrote an article called “Hyperbolic Traditionalists” on the Catholic Answers site (9-1-13). He references Taylor Marshall:

The blogger was Taylor Marshall, and his blog post appeared on July 30. He listed nine attributes that he thought distinguished radical Traditionalists from regular Traditionalists. . . .

Marshall did identify things that commonly are found among radical Traditionalists: “the denial of the Jewish holocaust,” “the outright denial of Vatican II as a valid council,” “disdain for Pope John Paul II and Pope Francis,” and “the belief that Latin Mass Catholics are ‘A Team’ and Novus Ordo Catholics are ‘B Team.’”

Those attributes don’t amount to a definition of radical Traditionalism, but they are useful indicators.

My definition for years now has been that the radical Catholic reactionary has four hallmarks (listed not far above). I have noted that anti-Semitism is often found in these circles as well (here’s one notorious example, from Rorate Caeli), but I don’t include it as a virtually universal “hallmark.” The only other difference is that I don’t include denial of the validity of Vatican II in “Vatican II-bashing.” Almost all reactionaries uphold the validity of Vatican II, the New Mass, and popes since 1958. But they continually bash all of them.

Marshall lists three of the four above. It’s almost like he had been reading my own materials on the topic (which go back to 1997 online). We know that he has read and liked my writings because he said so (see the next section). Therefore, if we ever do directly interact on these topics, he knows full well where I am coming from with regard to my definitions for Catholic reactionaries. He held the position himself as recently as 2013.

Now he himself has espoused and engages in all four things. He has become what he was describing then, as a mainstream, legitimate traditionalist (very close to my own present position that I have held since I converted in 1990). Now he’s a radical Catholic reactionary. How very sad . . .

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I’ve been studying and critiquing reactionary thinking since 1997 and have written two books about it (one / two) and have an extensive web page on the topic.

Now, before I offer my critique below, let me say that I don’t know Taylor Marshall personally, but I had been recommending his work till recently (we may have corresponded at some point; I don’t recall), when he decided to become a reactionary. Formerly, this is what he thought of my work:

Dave Armstrong’s book A Biblical Defense of Catholicism was one of the first Catholic apologetics books that I read when I was exploring Catholicism. Ever since then, I have continued to appreciate how he articulates the Catholic Faith through his blog and books. I still visit his site when I need a great quote or clarification regarding anything ranging from sacraments to sedevacantists. Dave is one of the best cyber-apologists out there.

That “endorsement” is posted on myLiterary Resume” right now and has been there for some time (it goes back at least as far as 21 August 2010, according to Internet Archive).

Also, Dr. Marshall thanked me (among many others), for my “friendship and encouragement along the way” in the Acknowledgments of his 2009 book, The Crucified Rabbi. He also placed a long sidebar ad for 15 books of mine that I was selling, on his website: at least as far back as 16 July 2009.

I appreciate the kind words. And of course, none of this is personal.

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I.Pope-Bashing [Apart from Pope Francis] in Taylor Marshall’s Book, Infiltration

[the ePub version that I am utilizing contains no page numbers, but these can all be found in a word-search of one of the e-book versions; all words below in blue are from the book (line breaks indicating separate quotations). My criticisms and citations of others will be in regular black.

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Venerable Pope Pius XII

Unfortunately, the second half of the pontificate of Pius XII is not as brilliant as the first half. In 1948, Pius XII appointed the controversial priest Father Annibale Bugnini to the Commission for Liturgical Reform.

Sadly, Pope Pius XII unwisely chose Father Annibale Bugnini to accomplish a “restoration” of something that never previously existed.

It’s difficult to understand why Pope Pius XII softened in his later years and how he was ostensibly manipulated by the likes of Father Bugnini. His friends and acquaintances noted a drastic change in his personality beginning in 1954, . . . 

Since 1946, Pope Pius XII had fallen under the influence of his chosen confessor and spiritual director, Augustine Cardinal Bea, S.J., . . . Cardinal Bea would reveal himself as a Modernist.

Pope St. John XXIII

[H]e proved to be one of the most revolutionary popes in Catholic history.

Pope John XXIII doubted the words of three children [at Fatima].

Not necessarily at all; he was referring to the Church with regard to Marian apparitions and was simply stating in this instance that the Church cannot formally endorse private revelations: an altogether uncontroversial notion. See, “Private Revelations” in Catholic Encyclopedia (1912): “When the Church approves private revelations, she declares only that there is nothing in them contrary faith or good morals, . . . no obligation is thereby imposed on the faithful to believe them.”

[T]here were only three acknowledged contemporary Catholic prophets or seers at the time of Pope John XXIII: the three children of Fatima. Did Pope John have them in mind when he condemned the “prophets of doom”?

In fact, it seems that Ratzinger eventually became one of the “prophets of doom” that John XXIII warned us about in his spirit of optimism.

Pope St. Paul VI

Most agree that . . . the pontificate of Paul VI brought monumental confusion to the Catholic Church.

Pope Paul VI’s eager enthusiasm for ecumenism is rooted in this document [Nostra aetatethat presupposes that false religions can and do lift the soul to “perfect liberation,” “supreme illumination,” and “submission to His inscrutable decrees.” Pope Leo XIII and Pope Saint Pius X would not have agreed with these theological assertions, . . . his thinking conformed to Freemasonic goals . . . 

Dr. Marshall has badly misquoted and misrepresented the conciliar document and foolishly pits previous popes against it. It’s not presupposing that everything it mentions with regard to other religions is true. Thus, when it mentions “perfect liberation” and “supreme illumination” it was describing what Buddhists believe about their own religion: not what Catholics think. This is like St. Paul evangelizing the Athenians: “Men of Athens, I perceive that in every way you are very religious. [23] For as I passed along, and observed the objects of your worship, I found also an altar with this inscription, ‘To an unknown god.’ What therefore you worship as unknown, this I proclaim to you” (Acts 17:22-23, RSV). 

Likewise, the document refers to Muslims, who “take pains to submit wholeheartedly to even His inscrutable decrees.” In other words, the observant Muslim seeks to submit to what he or she believes God (Allah in their conception) is telling them to do. It doesn’t follow at all that the Catholic conciliar document agrees with every jot and tittle (which would be indifferentism). Such a view is ludicrous, but is standard reactionary “anti-ecumenical” pablum. Nostra aetate makes it quite clear in the same section where it discussed Buddhism, that Catholicism remains the “fullness” of religious truth:

The Catholic Church rejects nothing that is true and holy in these religions. She regards with sincere reverence those ways of conduct and of life, those precepts and teachings which, though differing in many aspects from the ones she holds and sets forth, nonetheless often reflect a ray of that Truth which enlightens all men. Indeed, she proclaims, and ever must proclaim Christ “the way, the truth, and the life” (John 14:6), in whom men may find the fullness of religious life, in whom God has reconciled all things to Himself.

Thus, Nostra aetate did nothing other than what St. Paul did with the Athenians: it acknowledged true aspects while not denying false beliefs, and proclaimed the fullness of Christian revelation and theology. For more on the vastly misunderstood conciliar teaching on Islam, see my paper, Does Catholicism Equate Allah & Yahweh?

Bugnini was the chief architect of the Novus Ordo Mass, published in 1969 and 1970, and we shall thoroughly cover his influence over Pius XII and Paul VI in the pages to come. Suffice it here to state that Bugnini was an infiltrated priest and a Freemason.

It is difficult to understand how Pope Paul VI would lament the demonic infiltration of the Church while he promoted reforms that encouraged it: . . . 

The liturgical, theological, and philosophical changes of . . . Pope Paul VI were detrimental to the laity.

[T]he author Roger Peyrefitte . . . had written two books in which he claimed that Montini/Paul VI had maintained a long homosexual relationship with an Italian actor. The rumor of Paul VI’s secret homosexual relationship was spread in French and Italian print. The alleged homosexual partner of Paul VI was the Italian actor Paolo Carlini, . . . 

The “Paul VI was a sodomite” conspiracy theory has been bandied about in many reactionary books and websites. By including it, Dr. Marshall “proves” to the reactionaries that he is definitely one of them. It takes a lot of hubris and chutzpah, indeed, to accuse a pope who is a saint — the very one who wrote the magnificently heroic, tradition-affirming Humanae Vitae at that — , of ongoing sodomy with a secret lover. To even mention such filth is a disgrace and an outrage.

Meanwhile, three clerics exercised immense influence over the dying Pius XII: Bugnini, Montini [Paul VI], and the German Jesuit Augustin Bea. These three crypto-Modernists used the final three years of the pontificate to hatch their plot for a new style of pope, a new council, and new liturgy.

Montini had a dark side, as demonstrated by his friendship with Saul Alinsky.

Alinsky wrote to a friend as follows: “No, I don’t know who the next Pope will be, but if it’s to be Montini, the drinks will be on me for years to come.” In other words, the author of the Rules for Radicals could think of no better “radical” pope than Montini. But Montini was not the only radical cardinal undermining the final days of ailing Pope Pius XII.

Pope St. John Paul II

On 28 October 1986, John Paul II invoked and hosted the Assisi World Day of Prayer for Peace. . . . This was the first time a pope prayed with members of other religions and sat with them on equal standing.

But this is a distortion of what actually happened. Here is an account from one who helped plan this gathering and who was present (William F. Murphy):

How does a Christian whose prayer is “through Jesus Christ” pray with those who do not recognize Christ as lord and savior? How does a Jew pray with those who do not belong to the covenant of the chosen people? What of Buddhists and their approach to prayer? . . . 

The pope himself resolved this major issue. Apprised of the objections of Christians and non-Christians alike, Pope John Paul II first expressed his understanding of the objections’ legitimacy. Then he offered a formula that proved to be of immense help in clarifying what was and was not intended by the prayer for peace. The pope proposed that we were not gathering “to pray together,” but we were gathering “to be together to pray.” The prayer to be offered would be neither syncretist nor reductionist. Each group or delegation would offer prayer in accord with and reflective of its particular prayer tradition. Only the adherents of each religious group would be actively involved in their respective prayer. . . . 

[T]he religious leaders, with members of their own faith, dispersed to select sites in Assisi to pray and reflect in accord with their tradition. . . . Assisi is so rich in beautiful places for meeting that it was easy to find appropriate sites for each religious group.

The Christians assembled in the cathedral church of the Diocese of Assisi. There the pope, flanked by the representative of the ecumenical patriarch of Constantinople and by Archbishop Robert Runcie of Canterbury, led a service of prayer, hymns and reflection. (“Remembering Assisi After 20 Years”America, 10-23-06)

Catholic writer Mark Shea wrote about the second ecumenical gathering in Assisi (1993), in 2002 (an article I compiled, and host on my blog):

During the 40s, of course, Jews were housed in Catholic facilities, including the Vatican. They were permitted to pray there. Was this also a shocking betrayal of the uniqueness of the faith and a capitulation to indifferentism? If not, why not? If Jews can pray on Church property without it meaning “we’re really saying the same thing” why can’t the delegates to Assisi? – especially after the Pope explicitly says repeatedly, “We’re not praying together and we’re not really saying the same thing?” What’s so magical about being on Church property after a disclaimer like that?

I’m still having trouble figuring out the actual problem.

Yeah, so am I . . . 

The very article in the New York Times (10-28-86) that Dr. Marshall cites (footnote 128) with regard to another “scandal” that he recounts (see the next section) confirms that prayer together did not take place:

Scattered among Romanesque churches, Baroque chapels and Medieval palaces, the participants formed 12 groups this morning so that each faith could pray separately. . . . 

At no time did all of the participants pray together. Instead, the Pope coined the phrase ”being together to pray,” to describe how they were united here while worshipping separately.

Welcoming the religious leaders this morning, John Paul said, ”The fact that we have come here does not imply any intention of seeking a religious consensus among ourselves or of negotiating our faith convictions.”

Most scandalous of all was that the Tibetan Buddhist delegation led by the Dali Lama were allowed to place an idol of Buddha on top of a Catholic tabernacle in the Chapel of San Pietro, as reported by the New York Times. To this idol they burned incense within a Catholic church with permission from the pope.

. . . John Paul II’s participating in and encouraging pagan idolatry in a Catholic basilica . . . 

The act itself was substantiated by the same article above:

[T]he Buddhists, led by the Dalai Lama, quickly converted the altar of the Church of San Pietro by placing a small statute of the Buddha atop the tabernacle and setting prayer scrolls and incense burners around it.

But the article does not confirm that Pope St. John Paul II gave them “permission” to do such a thing. Nor does Dr. Marshall provide any documented evidence that the latter happened. Tom Nash, writing at the Catholic Answers website (4-14-17) explained: “the placement was done once by Buddhists in 1986, who did not realize the inappropriateness of the gesture, which they did not repeat.” As far as we can tell, it wasn’t authorized by Pope John Paul II or any other Catholic official.

To claim that he did do so, and without any proof or evidence, is highly irresponsible, to put it mildly. I have now spent a good chunk of time perusing many articles on the incident (almost all by reactionaries) and I can’t find any proof that the pope approved of it. Until such proof is produced, I think it is unethical to accuse a saint-pope of sanctioning an outrage such as this. That is believing the worst of someone, not the best, as we are taught in the Bible.

Dr. Marshall (again not providing any ironclad proof at all), wrote about this incident on his Twitter page, in March 2019:

In 1986, the valid pope allowed the Dalai Lama to place an idol of Buddha on top of a Catholic tabernacle in the Basilica at Assisi. That’s messed up. Lefebvre was operating in a state of ecclesiastical emergency.

The idol of Buddha by Dalai Lama on tabernacle was reported by New York Times with specificity. I give full report of it with more details in my new book “Infiltration: The Plot to Destroy Catholicism from Within”

Lefebvre himself pointed to Assisi 1986 as JP2 allowing Dalai Lama to worship on an altar in a Catholic Church, but not SSPX. Lefebvre thought JP2 had double standards against those that desired the old Mass. Why does Dalai Lama get free access to altar but not Traditionalists?

That’s how the 2 events are related and Lefebvre explicitly connected the 2 events when he consecrated the 4 bishops in 1988.

At least in Lefebvre’s account, the 2 events were directly related and go together: “If Pope says Dalai Lama can use an altar but Latin Mass priest cannot, then we can’t trust the Pope on this matter.”

Yes John Paul II allowed Dalai Lama to place idol of Buddha ON TOP of a tabernacle in Assis in 1986. It’s sacrilegious and led Lefebvre to make his decision in 1988

[someone provided the explanation that I have above]

So when JP2 gave a chapel and altar to Dalai Lama to use for worship, did he somehow assume that the Dalai Lama was going to say Mass in there? Really? What else would a Buddhist do?

His pontificate is clearly conflicted, . . . the Freemasons sought to create (beginning in the mid-1800s) a climate among youth, seminarians, and young priests who grew up breathing the air of ecumenism, indifference to religious disagreements, and a mission for world brotherhood. John Paul II is the first pope who moved freely in these ideals . . . he drank deeply of Vatican II, but he still retained the piety of a Catholic.

Some are convinced that John Paul II was not who we thought him to be.

Moreover, Dr. Marshall wrote on his Twitter page on 31 January 2019: “We need to admit that Paul VI and John Paul II pontificates had deep problems.”

In his video, “Pope Benedict’s Resignation: An Analysis” (2-13-19), Dr. Marshall opines about Pope John Paul the Great:
I want to be able to say, oh John Paul II was galvanizing a more conservative [trend or norm], but maybe he wasn’t, and that’s just part of the hard red pill on John Paul II and Ratzinger; and maybe this whole crisis is for us all to just wipe the sleep out of our eyes and be like, “oh my goodness!”: it’s been bad since the 60s, or it’s been bad since the 40s, or . . . it’s been bad since the 1800s, in Rome. (38:58-39:30)

Pope Benedict XVI

Why did Pope Benedict XVI resign the papacy on 28 February 2013?

Why should it be a mystery and be talked about as fodder for more conspiracies, when he himself explained exactly why? Why is that not good enough? Is he lying through his teeth? He wrote in his letter of resignation:

After having repeatedly examined my conscience before God, I have come to the certainty that my strengths, due to an advanced age, are no longer suited to an adequate exercise of the Petrine ministry.  . . . in order to govern the barque of Saint Peter and proclaim the Gospel, both strength of mind and body are necessary, strength which in the last few months, has deteriorated in me to the extent that I have had to recognize my incapacity to adequately fulfill the ministry entrusted to me.

Case closed. A revered pope has clarified his own personal situation. We need not invoke the Freemasons, the mafia, dissident Churchmen, or some other nefarious or conspiratorial scheme (such as it being “immoral” and “abandoning the flock to wolves”: as Dr. Marshall’s reactionary buddy Michael Voris asserted in one of his countless videos).

Dr. Marshall, thumbing his nose at the Pope Emeritus’ own explanation, suggested the real reason in a description of one of his podcasts: “Archbishop Viganò [blew] the whistle on the Vatican Bank in 2009-2010 and . . . it escalated into Benedict’s resignation in 2013.” 

And why did lightning strike the Vatican that very night [that Pope Benedict resigned]?
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It’s quite tough to prove either a conspiracy or spectacular divine intervention and alleged “sign” (via lightning) concerning goings-on in the Vatican. So why not stick to natural explanations? According to an expert on lightning striking buildings, St. Peter’s Basilica is “an extremely large structure. . . . it certainly towers over its surroundings, which means that lightning is more likely to hit it than any of the surrounding buildings.”
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The writer of this BBC article added: “So it seems that given the nature of St Peter’s as a building, and the meteorological conditions around Rome on that day, the likelihood of the Basilica being hit was in fact quite high.” (“What is the chance of lightning striking St Peter’s?”, 3-2-13)
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We’ve come to a sad state of affairs when a secular BBC article makes much more sense than an educated Catholic sometimes-apologist with a Ph.D., who would rather suggest a miraculous lightning strike and sign from God Almighty in Rome because a pope resigned (which is not unprecedented), rather than a simple, quite plausible natural explanation. This reminds me of the absurd superstitious bloviations about the modern table altar vs. the medieval high altar in Notre-Dame after the fire there, which I wrote about. Things like this make Catholics a laughingstock to the watching world.
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[T]here is an apparent rupture between recent papacies and previous papacies and councils . . . 
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In his video, “Pope Benedict’s Resignation: An Analysis” (2-13-19), Dr. Marshall provides his bottom-line opinion of Pope Benedict, and it’s not a pretty sight:
The longer I’m Catholic, the longer I’m removed from Pope Benedict XVI’s pontificate, the more I worry, . . . I’m concerned about this, that Benedict — that Ratzinger’s — appreciation and affection for “tradition” [gestures with hands: “quotation marks”] or traditionalism, is more aesthetic, that is, it’s more into the beauty and the sentiment than it is the actual doctrine / dogma.  (starting at 7:37 through to 8:08)
This backs up what I’ve been saying for six years now: traditionalists and the more extreme reactionaries like Taylor Marshall, are turning more and more against Pope Benedict (and popes since 1958) as time goes on. They used to love him. He was their darling; he was the cat’s meow. But then he resigned. Now (after years of increasing bitterness and resentment) he is being accused of not even being doctrinally orthodox: that’s how I interpret this bilge.

So, of course, Taylor — with all of 13 years’ experience as a Catholic (he was received in 2006) — is smarter than the pope / more Catholic than the pope. He knows his theology; Pope Benedict does not, and simply — you see — likes the “smells and bells” and facing the altar and Latin and fancy vestments. This sort of flatulent rhetoric is arrogant beyond comprehension. And the people saying it seem to not have the slightest comprehension that it is. It’s as natural as breathing to them, to treat a pope (and a very brilliant theologian at that) in this condescending, patronizing fashion.

II. Vatican II-Bashing

Most agree that the Second Vatican Council . . . brought monumental confusion to the Catholic Church.

Nothing binding came from Vatican II. . . . By a divine miracle, the pope of Vatican II taught that Vatican II contained no extraordinary dogma and did not carry the mark of infallibility — meaning the documents of Vatican II are fallible and may contain error. Unlike the previous twenty ecumenical councils, the pope placed an asterisk next to Vatican II.

This is sheer nonsense (though it is standard, textbook reactionary boilerplate). Pope Benedict XVI explained why it is, when he was still Cardinal Ratzinger:

It must be stated that Vatican II is upheld by the same authority as Vatican I and the Council of Trent, namely, the Pope and the College of Bishops in communion with him, and that also with regard to its contents, Vatican II is in the strictest continuity with both previous councils and incorporates their texts word for word in decisive points . . .

Whoever accepts Vatican II, as it has clearly expressed and understood itself, at the same time accepts the whole binding tradition of the Catholic Church, particularly also the two previous councils . . . It is likewise impossible to decide in favor of Trent and Vatican I but against Vatican II. Whoever denies Vatican II denies the authority that upholds the other two councils and thereby detaches them from their foundation. And this applies to the so-called ‘traditionalism,’ also in its extreme forms. Every partisan choice destroys the whole (the very history of the Church) which can exist only as an indivisible unity.

To defend the true tradition of the Church today means to defend the Council. It is our fault if we have at times provided a pretext (to the ‘right’ and ‘left’ alike) to view Vatican II as a ‘break’ and an abandonment of the tradition. There is, instead, a continuity that allows neither a return to the past nor a flight forward, neither anachronistic longings nor unjustified impatience. We must remain faithful to the today of the Church, not the yesterday or tomorrow. And this today of the Church is the documents of Vatican II, without reservations that amputate them and without arbitrariness that distorts them . . .

I see no future for a position that, out of principle, stubbornly renounces Vatican II. In fact in itself it is an illogical position. The point of departure for this tendency is, in fact, the strictest fidelity to the teaching particularly of Pius IX and Pius X and, still more fundamentally, of Vatican I and its definition of papal primacy. But why only popes up to Pius XII and not beyond? Is perhaps obedience to the Holy See divisible according to years or according to the nearness of a teaching to one’s own already-established convictions? (The Ratzinger Report, San Francisco: Ignatius, 1985, 28-29, 31)

The naive optimism of Vatican II . . . 

The liturgical, theological, and philosophical changes of Vatican II . . . were detrimental to the laity.

. . . the modernizing and liberalizing tendencies in doctrine, politics, and liturgy of Vatican II.

Maritain proposed a “new form” of Christendom, rooted in his philosophical, political, and religious pluralism. In brief, it was a prototype for the ideals and goals of Vatican II.

The engineers of Vatican II were Karl Rahner, Edward Schillebeeckx, Hans Küng, Henri de Lubac, and Yves Congar. All five men were held under suspicion of Modernism under Pius XII. Karl Rahner, S.J. had a greater influence than any other on the theology Vatican II — so much so that one might say that Vatican II is simply Rahnerianism.

Rahner was charged with reframing the doctrine of the Church for modern times, and the result was the Rahnerian document Lumen gentium. Rahner introduced a new ecclesiology in which the Church of Christ is not the Catholic Church but rather “subsists in the Catholic Church.” This seems to contradict the teaching of Pope Pius XII in his 1943 encyclical Mystici Corporis . . . 

More sheer nonsense. I cite the Wikipedia article,Subsistit in:

According to some, to say the Church of Christ “subsists in” the Catholic Church introduces a distinction between the Church of Christ and the Catholic Church. Catholic teaching had traditionally, until then, stated unequivocally that “the Mystical Body of Christ and the Roman Catholic Church are one and the same thing”, as Pope Pius XII expressed it in his 1950 encyclical Humani generis, 27). The teaching of Pope Pius XII on the identity of the Mystical Body and the Catholic Church in Mystici corporis was solemn, theologically integrated, but not new.

A supposed reversal of Mystici corporis by the Ecumenical Council, which incorporated virtually all teachings of Pius XII in over 250 references without caveats, would have not only been a rejection of a major teaching of the late Pontiff. It would have raised serious questions regarding the reliability and nature of Papal teachings on such essential topics like the Church. It would have also constituted a major attack on the most recent encyclical teachings of the then reigning Pope Paul VI, who had just issued his inaugural encyclical Ecclesiam suam, on “The Church”. Paul VI quoted Mystici corporis from Pius XII verbatim: . . . 

Therefore, the Church states that the phrase “subsists in” of Vatican II does not undermine the preceding manner of expressing the identity of the “Church of Christ” and the “Catholic Church”, since, as John XXIII said when he opened Vatican II, “The Council… wishes to transmit Catholic doctrine, whole and entire, without alteration or deviation” (speech of 11 October 1962).

Pope Paul VI when promulgating the Constitution, said the same. 

[Footnote:  “There is no better comment to make than to say that this promulgation really changes nothing of the traditional doctrine. What Christ willed, we also will. What was, still is. What the Church has taught down through the centuries, we also teach.” (Speech at the promulgation of the Constitution on the Church and the Decrees on the Eastern Churches and Ecumenism): 11-21-64]

The Council teaches that Christ “established… here on earth” a single Church “as an entity with visible delineation… constituted and organized in the world as a society”, a Church that has “a social structure” that “serves the spirit of Christ” in a way somewhat similar to how “the assumed nature, inseparably united to him, serves the divine Word as a living organ of salvation”. It is this concrete visible organized Church, endowed with a social structure, that the Council says “subsists in the Catholic Church, which is governed by the successor of Peter and by the Bishops in communion with him.” [Lumen gentium, 8]

In another document promulgated on the same day (21 November 1964) as Lumen gentium, the Council did in fact refer to “the Holy Catholic Church, which is the Mystical Body of Christ” (Decree Orientalium ecclesiarum, 2). Here the traditional conventional expression “is” is used, whose clarity can be used to interpret the potential ambiguity of the other phrase.

It is also to the Catholic Church, not to some supposed distinct “Church of Christ”, that has been entrusted “the fullness of grace and of truth” that gives value to the other Churches and communities that the Holy Spirit uses as instruments of salvation, [Unitatis redintegratio, 3] though the Church of Christ is not said to subsist in any of them.

In fact, the Council combined the two terms “Church of Christ” and “Catholic Church” into a single term, “Christ’s Catholic Church” in its Decree on Ecumenism, promulgated at the same time as its Constitution on the Church. [Unitatis redintegratio, 3] ]

Rahner . . . even posits that Christ is the one who is saved: “We are saved because this man who is one of us has been saved by God, . . ..” Sadly, this flimsy theology is the backdrop for Vatican II and Lumen gentium.

I agree that this is flimsy — indeed, blasphemous — theology, from Karl Rahner. I disagree that it is the “backdrop” of, or can explain either Lumen gentium or orthodox Vatican II theology. Like most people who have no case to be made, but have only innuendo and gossipy empty polemics, Dr. Marshall doesn’t show us exactly why he accepts these supposed connections, or why his estimation is to be believed. He simply asserts the outrageous thing and then moves on quickly to yet more conspiratorialism, which seems to make up the bulk of (maybe even constitute the very essence of) of this outlandish book.

Devout Catholics often defend Vatican II by saying that it was “hijacked,” and that is certainly the case, but the question is when, and by whom. As will become clear, Pope John XXIII, and his favorites, Bugnini, Bea, and Montini [Pope St. Paul VI], had already set the optimistic new order, or novus ordo, agenda.

While he [Pope John Paul II] supported the reforms of the Second Vatican Council, he was generally seen as doctrinally conservative, . . . 

As if being a “Vatican II adherent” is supposedly the same as not being doctrinally conservative (as if there is some inherent conflict) . . . 

. . . the Modernist tendency since the late 1950s . . . 

[W]hy not confess that the spirit of Vatican II is none other than the Holy Spirit? The Modernist truly believes that the new liturgy, the new code of canon law, the new theology, and the new popes are superior to those of the previous nineteen hundred years. Why not rejoice to live in the age of the New Pentecost? Most serious and informed Catholics cannot swallow this pill. Catholicism is a perennial religion, and by its nature it cannot change or contradict itself.

. . . the problems of infiltration, Modernism, Vatican II, . . . 

. . . the effeminacy of the post-conciliar liturgy and doctrine, . . . ecclesial chaos.

[T]here are traditional priests and laity who subscribe to the “recognize and resist” position by attending the 1962 Latin Mass at diocesan parishes or at parishes served by the Priestly Fraternity of Saint Peter, the Institute of Christ the King, or other canonically approved bodies. In these circles, there are frank discussions and debates about problems with certain phrases or documents of the Second Vatican Council and subsequent papal statements.

The “recognize and resist” position goes back to the 1960s in the persons of Cardinal Ottaviani and Archbishop Lefebvre. They and others recognized that the pope and bishops of their time were valid, but that they had fallen into error on several topics. . . . This position of “recognize and resist” applies to Vatican II as well. . . . Since Vatican II did not bear the mark of infallibility or the extraordinary magisterium, a Catholic can claim without impiety that the Council may have contained mistakes.

The Catholic Church has been infiltrated all the way to the top.

He called the Second Vatican Council to session in 1962, opening the Church up to dramatic changes, but the pontiff remained conservative in terms of doctrine.

Unfortunately, this is a sub-Catholic, liberalized, dissenting, “cafeteria Catholic” or “pick-and-choose” understanding of conciliar authority. Msgr. Fernando Ocariz Braña, the current Prelate of Opus Dei, provides us with an orthodox, fully Catholic view, in his article, “On Adhesion to the Second Vatican Council”(L’Osservatore Romano, 12-2-11; reprinted at Catholic Culture):

[I]t is not pointless to recall that the pastoral motivation of the Council does not mean that it was not doctrinal – since all pastoral activity is necessarily based on doctrine. But, above all, it is important to emphasise that precisely because doctrine is aimed at salvation, the teaching of doctrine is an integral part of all pastoral work. Furthermore, within the Documents of the Council it is obvious that there are many strictly doctrinal teachings: on Divine Revelation, on the Church, etc. As Blessed John Paul II wrote: “With the help of God, the Council Fathers in four years of work were able to produce a considerable collection of doctrinal statements and pastoral norms which were presented to the whole Church” (Apostolic Constitution Fidei Depositum, 11 October 1992, Introduction).

Assent Owed to the Magisterium

The Second Vatican Council did not define any dogma, in the sense that it proposed no doctrine with a definitive act. However, even if the Magisterium proposes a teaching without directly invoking the charism of infallibility, it does not follow that such a teaching is therefore to be considered “fallible” – in the sense that what is proposed is somehow a “provisional doctrine” or just an “authoritative opinion”. Every authentic expression of the Magisterium must be received for what it truly is: a teaching given by Pastors who, in the apostolic succession, speak with the “charism of truth” (Dei Verbum, n. 8), “endowed with the authority of Christ” (Lumen Gentium, n. 25), “and by the light of the Holy Spirit” (ibid.).

This charism, this authority and this light were certainly present at the Second Vatican Council; to deny this to the entire episcopate gathered to teach the universal Church cum Petro and sub Petro, would be to deny something of the very essence of the Church (cf. Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, Declaration Mysterium Ecclesiae, 24 June 1973, nn. 2-5).

Naturally not all the affirmations contained in the Conciliar documents have the same doctrinal value and therefore not all require the same degree of assent. . . . 

Those affirmations of the Second Vatican Council that recall truths of the faith naturally require the assent of theological faith, not because they were taught by this Council but because they have already been taught infallibly as such by the Church, either by a solemn judgement or by the ordinary and universal Magisterium. So also a full and definitive assent is required for the other doctrines set forth by the Second Vatican Council which have already been proposed by a previous definitive act of the Magisterium.

The Council’s other doctrinal teachings require of the faithful a degree of assent called “religious submission of will and intellect”. . . . 

A number of innovations of a doctrinal nature are to be found in the documents of the Second Vatican Council: on the sacramental nature of the episcopate, on episcopal collegiality, on religious freedom, etc. These innovations in matters concerning faith or morals, not proposed with a definitive act, still require religious submission of intellect and will, even though some of them were and still are the object of controversy with regard to their continuity with earlier magisterial teaching, or their compatibility with the tradition. In the face of such difficulties in understanding the continuity of certain Conciliar Teachings with the tradition, the Catholic attitude, having taken into account the unity of the Magisterium, is to seek a unitive interpretation in which the texts of the Second Vatican Council and the preceding Magisterial documents illuminate each other. Not only should the Second Vatican Council be interpreted in the light of previous Magisterial documents, but also some of these earlier magisterial documents can be understood better in the light of the Second Vatican Council. This is nothing new in the history of the Church. It should be remembered, for example, that the meaning of important concepts adopted in the First Council of Nicaea in the formulation of the Trinitarian and Christological faith (hypóstasis, ousía), were greatly clarified by later Councils.

The interpretation of the innovations taught by the Second Vatican Council must therefore reject, as Benedict XVI put it, “a hermeneutic of discontinuity and rupture,” while it must affirm the “hermeneutic of reform, of renewal within continuity” (Discourse, 22 December 2005). These are innovations in the sense that they explain new aspects which have not previously been formulated by the Magisterium, but which do not doctrinally contradict previous Magisterial documents. This is so even though, in certain cases — for example, concerning religious freedom — these innovations imply very different consequences at the level of historical decisions concerning juridical and political applications of the teaching, especially given the changes in historical and social conditions. 

Likewise, Pope Benedict XVI elaborated upon (brilliantly as always) the same principles of Catholic in his famous talk (12-22-05) about “the hermeneutic of reform, of renewal within continuity”:

What has been the result of the Council? Was it well received? What, in the acceptance of the Council, was good and what was inadequate or mistaken? What still remains to be done? No one can deny that in vast areas of the Church the implementation of the Council has been somewhat difficult, . . . 

The question arises:  Why has the implementation of the Council, in large parts of the Church, thus far been so difficult?

Well, it all depends on the correct interpretation of the Council or – as we would say today – on its proper hermeneutics, the correct key to its interpretation and application. The problems in its implementation arose from the fact that two contrary hermeneutics came face to face and quarrelled with each other. One caused confusion, the other, silently but more and more visibly, bore and is bearing fruit.

On the one hand, there is an interpretation that I would call “a hermeneutic of discontinuity and rupture”; it has frequently availed itself of the sympathies of the mass media, and also one trend of modern theology. On the other, there is the “hermeneutic of reform”, of renewal in the continuity of the one subject-Church which the Lord has given to us. She is a subject which increases in time and develops, yet always remaining the same, the one subject of the journeying People of God.

The hermeneutic of discontinuity risks ending in a split between the pre-conciliar Church and the post-conciliar Church. It asserts that the texts of the Council as such do not yet express the true spirit of the Council. It claims that they are the result of compromises in which, to reach unanimity, it was found necessary to keep and reconfirm many old things that are now pointless. However, the true spirit of the Council is not to be found in these compromises but instead in the impulses toward the new that are contained in the texts. . . . 

The nature of a Council as such is therefore basically misunderstood. . . . 

The hermeneutic of discontinuity is countered by the hermeneutic of reform, as it was presented first by Pope John XXIII in his Speech inaugurating the Council on 11 October 1962 and later by Pope Paul VI in his Discourse for the Council’s conclusion on 7 December 1965.

Here I shall cite only John XXIII’s well-known words, which unequivocally express this hermeneutic when he says that the Council wishes “to transmit the doctrine, pure and integral, without any attenuation or distortion”. And he continues:  “Our duty is not only to guard this precious treasure, as if we were concerned only with antiquity, but to dedicate ourselves with an earnest will and without fear to that work which our era demands of us…”. It is necessary that “adherence to all the teaching of the Church in its entirety and preciseness…” be presented in “faithful and perfect conformity to the authentic doctrine, which, however, should be studied and expounded through the methods of research and through the literary forms of modern thought. The substance of the ancient doctrine of the deposit of faith is one thing, and the way in which it is presented is another…”, retaining the same meaning and message (The Documents of Vatican II, Walter M. Abbott, S.J., p. 715). . . . 

The Second Vatican Council, with its new definition of the relationship between the faith of the Church and certain essential elements of modern thought, has reviewed or even corrected certain historical decisions, but in this apparent discontinuity it has actually preserved and deepened her inmost nature and true identity.

The Church, both before and after the Council, was and is the same Church, one, holy, catholic and apostolic, journeying on through time; she continues “her pilgrimage amid the persecutions of the world and the consolations of God”, proclaiming the death of the Lord until he comes (cfLumen Gentiumn. 8). . . . 

[T]oday we can look with gratitude at the Second Vatican Council:  if we interpret and implement it guided by a right hermeneutic, it can be and can become increasingly powerful for the ever necessary renewal of the Church. 

Lest there be any remaining doubt that Dr. Marshall is a very severe critic of Vatican II and does not think it was a good thing or a net gain for the Church, here are more comments of his from his video, “Pope Benedict XVI Speaks: I am no longer directly responsible” (4-12-19). It’s a discussion of Pope Benedict XVI’s recent essay, “The Church and the scandal of sexual abuse”:

[From 5:16 to 5:32]: You see this sort of, “yeah, everything went bad in the 60s, but Vatican II was still kind o’ really good, guys, right? Vatican II was still okay!” He’s still holding onto that.

[From 27:26 to 28:26]: He’s going to the 60s, and we’re thinkin’, “well, you know, Ratzinger, you were kind of involved in this big meeting in the 60s, that, uh, revolutionized the Catholic Church liturgically, philosophically, morally, and theologically” . . . moral theology was based entirely on the Bible [in Vatican II]? That was not Vatican II! [big smirk and condescending tone]. It was all consequentialism!”

III. Pauline / New / “Novus Ordo” / Ordinary Form Mass-Bashing

Most agree that . . . the Novus Ordo Mass. . . brought monumental confusion to the Catholic Church.

[T]he new Mass leaned toward Protestantism. This was not a baseless accusation. Six Protestant scholars had been invited to Vatican II to participate in discussions regarding ecumenism and liturgy . . . 

Bugnini was the chief architect of the Novus Ordo Mass, published in 1969 and 1970, and we shall thoroughly cover his influence over Pius XII and Paul VI in the pages to come. Suffice it here to state that Bugnini was an infiltrated priest and a Freemason.

Again on his Twitter page on 31 January 2019, Dr. Marshall pontificated:

We need to return to the Roman Rite pre Bugnini (pre 1955). It is literally killing us. We need to return to a Thomism. We need to return to the clear 1917 Code.

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Related Reading:

Critical Reviews or Notices of Infiltration

“Infiltration: An idiot’s guide to the problems of the Church” (Dr. Jeff Mirus, Catholic Culture, 5-31-19)

“Infiltration, innuendo, and the longing for certainty” (Dr. Jennifer Roback Morse, The Catholic World Report, 5-31-19)

JD Flynn, Editor-in-Chief, Catholic News Agency and Canon Lawyer, Weighs in Against Taylor Marshall (Twitter, 5-31-19)

“Taylor Marshall’s ‘Infiltration'” (Fr. Dwight Longenecker, 6-1-19)

“So, This Catholic Convert Walks Into A Bar” (John Bruce, The Crisis And The Cold Case File, 6-2-19)

Infiltration: an unconvincing tale of the Church’s enemies (Joseph Shaw [reactionary], Catholic Herald, 6-13-19)

Book Review: Infiltration by Taylor Marshall (Phillip Campbell and Kevin Tierney [traditionalists], Unam Sanctam Catholicam, 6-27-19)

A Chapter-by-Chapter Refutation of Dr. Taylor Marshall’s Book, Infiltration: The Plot to Destroy the Church from Within (+ Part II / III / IV / V / VI / VII / VIII / IX / X) [Paul Hoffer, starting on 6-9-19]

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March 4, 2021

Setting the Record Straight: My Supposedly “Personal” & Unsavory Exchanges with Karl Keating, Phil & Leila Lawler, & Taylor Marshall

I ran across this curiosity piece today, in an Amazon review of Karl Keating’s book, The Francis Feud: Why and How Conservative Catholics Squabble about Pope Francis (2018). Reviewer “Pseudo D” stated:
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Keating’s book seems to be prompted by his disputes with fellow apologist Dave Armstrong and others over the appropriate way to criticize the pope. Armstrong reacted to Lawler’s book in a deeply personal way and began an endless discussion with Keating.
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Huh? First of all, I get a kick out of the description, “deeply personal.” What is that supposed to mean? I was simply doing my apologetics as I have always done, and strongly disagreed with Lawler’s book. It’s nothing “personal” at all.
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But today, it seems that every honest, principled, passionate disagreement in theology or other matters has to be couched in personal, subjective terms. This is the postmodernist society we live in. And I submit that this excessive subjectivism has deeply penetrated the thoughts of Christians, too. In the brief exchange that I actually had with Phil Lawler, I was far more respectful towards him than vice versa. I wrote:
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Thanks for replying and for the generous offer to send me your book, which you know I will likely be critical of. Thank you. Let me assure you, first of all, that none of this is personal. I have admired your work for a long time and often linked to your articles and others at Catholic Culture. And I know that you guys have always positively reviewed my website in your ratings of sites. I have another apologist friend who cares little for Pope Francis, yet we remain best of friends. For me, disagreements are no reason to end a friendship.
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But know that it is precisely out of existing profound respect for folks like you and Karl, that I am all the more distressed to see the positions you have arrived at, which I deeply, sincerely believe are erroneous.
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I expressly denied that it was “personal” at all. I always mean what I say and say what I mean. Two months later (March 2018) I had an ugly interaction with Phil and his wife Leila on Facebook (on Patrick Coffin’s and Leila’s pages):
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Me: Phil already made it clear he had no interest in dialogue with me, he certainly wouldn’t live, on-air. He wants to do all he can to utterly ignore all my critiques.
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Phil Lawler: I responded at length to you, privately, about your critiques. You ignored my response, and continued to mischaracterize my ideas. That’s why I see no point in continuing an exchange.
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Me: I don’t recall any lengthy personal letter about my critiques. I certainly would have responded, as you see I have been doing many times . . . It may be, then, that I never received a private lengthy letter. Was that sent in email or in a PM? By all means, send it again, and I will reply point-by-point and post everything on my blog (with your permission).
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[89 more minutes pass by]
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Phil Lawler: Don’t troll, Dave; you’re better than that.
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Me: You say you sent me a letter. I say I never received it. You say I ignored it and mischaracterize you. So send it to me. This isn’t trolling. [My friend] Mike Mudd tagged me and I came and commented.
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[Meanwhile, Phil wrote the day before on his Facebook page: “I am angry- at the tactics of those who, while speaking in lofty terms about open dialogue and respectful debate, do their utmost to impugn the motivations and question the good faith of those who disagree with them.” I totally agree!]
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Leila Marie Lawler: Dave Armstrong misrepresents Phil and doesn’t hesitate to ascribe opinions to him that are not supported by the text. So if you prefer something that is about one man’s desperate attempt to avoid reality, well there is nothing I can do about that. . . . He’s a good man. But he is very wrong about Phil’s book.
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Me: I’d be glad to be shown where I am wrong, and will modify portions of my reviews accordingly, if this is demonstrated. Phil just claimed earlier today that he sent me a long private letter in response to my critiques that I ignored, continuing to supposedly misrepresent him. I never received such a letter. I asked him to send it to me so that I can hear his thoughts and interact with them. Now he appears reluctant to send it. Why?
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Leila Marie Lawler: Frankly, Dave, your comments here and elsewhere are amounting to trolling — I’ve already had to delete a comment on a post that was downright sneering — perhaps you will remember it, as it was a mean-spirited response to my request that people leave reviews on Amazon, which you had already done and yet found it important to sort of gloat at your negativity. If you continue this way, I will block you.
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It is clear to anyone who reads all the comments here and on Phil’s posts that we are fine with comments and even with arguing. But this is too much.
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[Phil refused to engage in a simple discussion with me, trying to find more common ground. He seems unwilling to send me this long private letter that he referenced. He falsely accused me of trolling, then his wife did, when I was trying to be conciliatory. I’m still accessible via email if they have second thoughts about wishing to communicate again like normal orthodox Catholic adults]
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So now, back to the reviewer’s observation that I was engaged in “endless” discussion with Karl Keating about Phil Lawler’s and Ross Douthat’s books. Here are the papers I made of exchanges with Karl, along with dates:
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The discussions with Karl about Lawler, specifically, lasted all of nine days (that’s “endless”?). Then two months later we had one dialogue about Douthat. Three weeks after that we had a general discussion about criticizing popes. Big wow. Of course, I was busy writing many other things during this time (far more than just this stuff), per my usual modus operandi.
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Then someone informed me that they had a Kindle version of Karl’s book in June 2018 and that he literally mentioned me 99 times. He never gave me the courtesy of telling me that he would be citing me that much, using our discussions, listed above. Why? I don’t think it’s unethical; just odd and weird for a friend and fellow apologist to do that.
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Naturally, then, I made a response to that, only dealing with six representative issues that were brought up. I also wrote an Amazon review. Karl made it clear that he resented my posting of a panning review on the first day his book was released, so I removed it, with apology, in Dec. 2018. But I retained my post on my blog that contained the substance of the Amazon review. I have a right to respond to 99 mentions of myself in a book.
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Karl then claimed in July 2018 that I was “monomaniacal about Lawler.” My reply was as follows:
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Merriam-Webster Online:
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1 : mental illness especially when limited in expression to one idea or area of thought
2 : excessive concentration on a single object or idea
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Other online dictionaries use terms to describe “monomania” such as “psychosis,” “insanity,” and “Pathological obsession with one idea or subject, as in paranoia”.
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To say that I am obsessed with Phil Lawler to the point of mental illness is absolutely asinine. Here is the record: I wrote 20 posts about Lawler (regarding his unwarranted attacks upon Pope Francis) from 28 December 2017 till 30 March 2018. Given my prolific writing, that’s not much. Many of those were responding back to the arguments of others.
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I wrote one more (as an exception on 4-28-18). Then I found out that Karl had mentioned me some 99 times in his book, The Francis Feud, and so (as one might expect) I wrote one paper in response to that on 6-2-18.
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Since then I have agreed with one of Lawler’s articles. Karl classifies this as “monomaniacal about Lawler.” This is ridiculous and absurd. I usually crank out two articles a day on average (many recently have been re-postings of old stuff as I continue to reorganize papers from my old blog).
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A very rough estimate, then, of the number of my articles this year would be about 420. Of those, 22 (or 5%) had to do with Phil Lawler. And five of those were only on Facebook: not even on my blog. That’s certainly a far lower percentage than what Phil Lawler has written about Pope Francis in the same period (or even the percentage of Karl’s Facebook posts devoted to hiking in the mountains of California).
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Thus, if I am a “monomaniac” for devoting 5% of my writing this year to Lawler, how much more so is Lawler in writing about the pope? That would make him a super-duper monomaniac! And Karl (by this odd, weird, incomprehensible “reasoning”) would be far more “monomaniac” on the topic of hiking than I ever was regarding Phil Lawler and his never-ending bashing of Pope Francis.
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I haven’t written any post on my blog or Facebook about Phil Lawler since July 2018: and even that was in direct reply to Keating’s outlandish charge. My last self-generated post about him was from April 2018.
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Also, at some point during these discussions with Karl, he claimed that I was going off “half-cocked” in my critiques of Lawler. I also critically described him with regard to one particular thing (I forget the phrase I used, but it was certainly far milder than his descriptions of my imaginary attitudes). Karl objected and asked me to remove this description of him. I gladly did, and then asked if he would return the favor and remove the “half-cocked” description. He didn’t.
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I think my aims, goals, and my spirit is evident throughout these exchanges: even to the extent of removing things that offended others. My attempts to dialogue with Phil were rudely spurned, and Phil refused to send me a letter he says he wrote to me, that I never received.
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This often happens in online discussion. I was equally respectful of Taylor Marshall when I critiqued his book, Infiltration. In my very first critique (dated 5-30-19) — my most well-known one –, I made this quite clear:
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Now, before I offer my critique below, let me say that I don’t know Taylor Marshall personally, but I had been recommending his work till recently . . . And of course, none of this is personal [italics in original].
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But Taylor blocked me from his Twitter page within 24 hours, made disparaging remarks to the effect that I was trying to profit off of criticizing him, and has ignored any criticism of mine ever since. And all that, despite formerly writing about me (c. 2010 or earlier):
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Dave Armstrong’s book A Biblical Defense of Catholicism was one of the first Catholic apologetics books that I read when I was exploring Catholicism. Ever since then, I have continued to appreciate how he articulates the Catholic Faith through his blog and books. I still visit his site when I need a great quote or clarification regarding anything ranging from sacraments to sedevacantists. Dave is one of the best cyber-apologists out there.
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Taylor also thanked me (among many others), for my “friendship and encouragement along the way” in the Acknowledgments of his 2009 book, The Crucified Rabbi. He also placed a long sidebar ad for 15 books of mine that I was selling, on his website: at least as far back as 16 July 2009. It was there for several years.
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All that went out the window with one critique from me. And I’m supposed to be the one who is so “personal” and supposedly “sensitive” (as another reactionary accused me yesterday)? I don’t run from cordial, respectful criticism; I welcome it, actually love it. It creates an opportunity for dialogue and in-depth clarification.
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If people are scared to dialogue; even to clear up evident misunderstandings or miscommunications, and if they don’t take kindly to any substantive criticism, then I think that indicates something troubling and concerning about their spirit. We all have to be willing to be criticized and to retract where necessary. It’s part of being both accountable and humble. The Bible states:
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Proverbs 9:7-8 (RSV) He who corrects a scoffer gets himself abuse, and he who reproves a wicked man incurs injury. [8] Do not reprove a scoffer, or he will hate you; reprove a wise man, and he will love you.
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Proverbs 15:12 A scoffer does not like to be reproved; . . .
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Proverbs 27:6 Faithful are the wounds of a friend; profuse are the kisses of an enemy.
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Exchanges with Karl Keating on this issue resumed on my Facebook page when he showed up regarding another matter (3-4 December 2020):
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Karl Keating: [A]t Amazon, he gave my book The Francis Feud a single star while admitting he hadn’t even read it. He glanced through the book, he said, to see how many times his own name appeared, and then he wrote his “review.” He just “knew” that he would disagree with my book, and that apparently was justification enough. . . . I suppose it was the Amazon episode that shattered the remaining respect I had for Dave as a commentator.
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Me: Right. I apologized for that and removed it from Amazon (even though your book mentioned me 99 times and you didn’t bother to let me know before publication), and here you are still bringing it up. I did read your whole book soon after, but as I noted to no avail, it made no difference whatever as to the points I made (or to my overall opinion), because I was responding to your massive citation of me.
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As for respect, that works both ways. You have obviously become bitter towards me. I don’t reciprocate that, and will continue to treat you with respect as the “father of modern Catholic apologetics”, and recommend your books. But I’m most unimpressed with the ethics of your behavior and moving to the far ecclesiological right over the past few years.
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Karl Keating: Contrary to your imagining, I have no bitterness against you, . . . I could say more, but there’s no point. I’m not here to argue your characterizations of me or of anyone else. You’ve done good work for the Church. I expect you will do more, and I wish you well.
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Me:  You show a note of conciliation today and I appreciate that. Tell me, then, do you now accept my apology for the review on Amazon, which I removed? If you did at the time, I don’t recall it. If you did then or now, then why are you bringing it up, publicly, on my page? Are we not supposed to forgive and forget? What more can a person do than apologize in cases of offense and/or wrongdoing? You show little sign of having accepted my apology (that’s part of that “transaction”!). But here’s your chance now.
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You mentioned me 99 times in your book, without even giving me the courtesy of letting me know beforehand. I responded with one Amazon review / one paper on my blog. You seem to think I am not entitled to give my side of things. Someone simply made me aware that you had mentioned me in your book. So I went and looked at it and replied (the usual search methods of books revealed that it was literally 99 times).
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Did you expect I wouldn’t or shouldn’t do so? You mischaracterized both my views and arguments and even several of Lawler’s. It begged for a response. You act like it’s Chicken Little that I (or anyone?) dare disagree with you and express it publicly. This is most disappointing: especially from an apologist well-used to back-and-forth argumentation. We simply could have had a good dialogue. But you have had very little interest in that ever since we disagreed on Lawler.
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Your failure to accept my apology and the acerbic, condescending nature of your words last night, including “shattered the remaining respect I had for Dave as a commentator” certainly did not, I submit, leave an impression other than unforgiveness and a seeming bitterness over that incident (and basically a shattering of whatever friendship remained).
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[still no acceptance of my apology from Karl. It was a stony silence after that]
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(originally written on 7-28-18, 2-27-20, and 3-4 December 2020 on Facebook)
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Photo credit: image of the cover of Taylor Marshall’s book, Infiltration, on its Walmart purchase page.
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Summary: I collect various public exchanges with Taylor Marshall, Karl Keating, & Phil & Leila Lawler re Pope Francis. See who was cordial & polite, & who was rude, dismissive, & contentious.
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June 20, 2019

I discovered on 6-19-19 that my Amazon review had been removed from the Amazon Book Page for Infiltration. It was, for about two weeks, listed as the “top review” and the first one listed of over 1000, and also the “top critical review.” It had more than 250 “helpful” votes: more than any other review. Now it’s gone, and is no longer listed on my Amazon profile page, listing all my book reviews there. I tried  unsuccessfully with two Amazon representatives to find out why and have not as yet received a satisfactory explanation, even though they promised I would within 72 hours.
Addendum: 7-12-19: The article, “Why Is Amazon Blocking Reviews Of The No. 1 Best-Selling ‘Justice On Trial?’” (Sean Davis, The Federalist, 7-11-19) might perhaps explain what happened:
In 2017, Amazon confirmed that it manually conducted mass deletions of one-star reviews of Hillary Clinton’s book detailing her failed 2016 presidential campaign. According to news reports at the time, Amazon deleted more than 900 one-star reviews of Clinton’s memoir.  . . .
While consumer product reviews are often manipulated to make potential buyers more likely to purchase an item, the opposite is often true with more political products, like books or movies. . . .

In 2018, the Wall Street Journal reported that Amazon employees were being investigated for manipulating product reviews in exchange for cash.

“The going rate for having an Amazon employee delete negative reviews is about $300 per review, according to people familiar with the practice,” the Wall Street Journal noted. “Brokers usually demand a five-review minimum, meaning that sellers typically must pay at least $1,500 for the service, the people said.”

[see also the Abridged Amazon review]
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David G. Armstrong
Taylor Marshall Reverts Back to Anglican Ecclesiology with Infiltration

June 1, 2019

Dr. Marshall was an Anglican priest prior to 2006. As would have been the case then, once again he (ultimately) accepts neither the authority of popes nor of ecumenical councils, if they happen to clash with his own preconceived views. It’s the Protestant (and “Enlightenment”) principle of private judgment and exaggerated personal autonomy; part and parcel of both heterodox Catholic liberals and of self-consistent Protestants.

Ironically, Taylor Marshall — in 2013 — defined “radical traditionalists” in precisely the way I define the group I coined in that same year as “radical Catholic reactionaries” (which now, sadly, includes himself). Karl Keating wrote an article called “Hyperbolic Traditionalists” on the Catholic Answers site (9-1-13). He referenced Taylor Marshall and a blog post of his, dated July 30, 2013, in which he “listed nine attributes that he thought distinguished radical Traditionalists from regular Traditionalists.” He cited Dr. Marshall:
“the outright denial of Vatican II as a valid council,” “disdain for Pope John Paul II and Pope Francis,” and “the belief that Latin Mass Catholics are ‘A Team’ and Novus Ordo Catholics are ‘B Team.’”
My definition for years now has been that the radical Catholic reactionary has four hallmarks: the three that Dr. Marshall mentioned above in 2013, and also antipathy to authentic ecumenism (usually caricaturing it and making out that it is simply liberal indifferentism). Now he himself has espoused and engages in all four things. He has become what he was describing then, as a mainstream, legitimate traditionalist.
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Accordingly, Infiltration is mere recycled radical Catholic reactionary conspiratorialism: a sort of updated version of The Great Facade (2002; updated with a 2nd edition in 2015: in order to capitalize on the anti-Francis hysteria), by Christopher Ferrara and Thomas Woods. Marshall has been sinking more and more into the doom-and-gloom abyss of reactionary thinking for several years now.Dr. Jeff Mirus has written a scathing review of the book on the Catholic Culture website, entitled, Infiltration: An idiot’s guide to the problems of the Church.” He observed:

It is hard to know where to begin a review, since discussing the book is rather like pointing out the absurdity of a crazy relative who always has an answer to every objection, pulled out of a world that exists only in his head. The fundamental stupidity of the book arises from the author’s felt need to explain the normal human condition in terms of a series of conspiracies. Developments and ideas the author considers bad—from the loss of the Papal States through the Second Vatican Council and right up to the current pontificate—are ascribed to the secret machinations of the Masons, the Modernists, the Communists, the gays, the St. Galen Mafia, you name it.

The technique is reminiscent of McCarthyism in America in the 1950s. If you have an idea that is similar to one held by one of the conspiratorial groups, it is a sure sign of the effectiveness of the conspiracy. If you happen to know someone in one of the conspiratorial groups, it is a sure sign that you have been successfully recruited. Even more absurd, the normal manner in which all human individuals and groups pursue their own interests is tagged, whenever convenient to the argument, as conspiratorial. Finally, in one of the classic tactics of the Catholic far-right, Marian apparitions and papal visions are adduced to confirm all, so that, from a few cryptic utterances, one’s version of history seems to be confirmed infallibly in every detail by God Himself. . . .

Infiltration, as I have indicated, displays an understanding of human history typical of your mad relative. What else can we expect from a book which makes wild assertions about plots, conspiracies and complex theological or institutional problems, each of which the author claims to treat decisively and beyond doubt in roughly three to five pages!

I think he is dead-on. In other words, to sum it up: “It ain’t just Pope Francis.” It’s radical Catholic reactionary conspiratorial / alarmist / fanatical thinking. That’s why — increasingly — those who attack Pope Francis also are frequently observed attacking Pope Benedict XVI, Pope St. John Paul II, Pope St. Paul VI, and Pope St. John XXIII, and/or Vatican II, and/or the ordinary form Mass. Dr. Marshall does all of this in his book. He even goes after Ven. Pope Pius XII, too, in some respects. Reactionaries usually reserve their ire and righteous indignation for popes starting with St. John XXIII. To cite just one example of many, of Dr. Marshall’s ludicrous opposition to Vatican II, on absurd grounds, he wrote:
Pope Paul VI’s eager enthusiasm for ecumenism is rooted in this document [Nostra aetate] that presupposes that false religions can and do lift the soul to ‘perfect liberation,’ ‘supreme illumination,’ and ‘submission to His inscrutable decrees.’ Pope Leo XIII and Pope Saint Pius X would not have agreed with these theological assertions, . . . his thinking conformed to Freemasonic goals . . .

Dr. Marshall has badly misquoted and misrepresented the conciliar document and foolishly pits previous popes against it. It’s not presupposing that everything it mentions with regard to other religions is true. Thus, when it mentions “perfect liberation” and “supreme illumination” it was describing what Buddhists believe about their own religion: not what Catholics think. This is like St. Paul evangelizing the Athenians:

Acts 17:22-23 (RSV). Men of Athens, I perceive that in every way you are very religious. [23] For as I passed along, and observed the objects of your worship, I found also an altar with this inscription, “To an unknown god.” What therefore you worship as unknown, this I proclaim to you 

It doesn’t follow at all that Nostra aetate agrees with every jot and tittle (which would be heretical indifferentism). Such a view is ludicrous, but is standard reactionary “anti-ecumenical” pablum. Nostra aetate makes it quite clear in the same section where it discussed Buddhism, that Catholicism remains the “fullness” of religious truth:

The Catholic Church rejects nothing that is true and holy in these religions. She regards with sincere reverence those ways of conduct and of life, those precepts and teachings which, though differing in many aspects from the ones she holds and sets forth, nonetheless often reflect a ray of that Truth which enlightens all men. Indeed, she proclaims, and ever must proclaim Christ ‘the way, the truth, and the life’ (John 14:6), in whom men may find the fullness of religious life, in whom God has reconciled all things to Himself.

Thus, Nostra aetate did nothing other than what St. Paul did with the Athenians: it acknowledged true aspects while not denying false beliefs, and proclaimed the fullness of Christian revelation and theology.

It’s currently ultra-fashionable among reactionaries to second-guess and cynically speculate about Pope Benedict XVI’s resignation. He used to be their superhero and “darling” but no more! Hence, Dr. Marshall asks: “Why did Pope Benedict XVI resign the papacy on 28 February 2013?”

Why should it be a mystery and be talked about as fodder for more conspiracies, when Pope Benedict *himself* explained exactly why? Why is that not good enough? Is he lying through his teeth? He wrote in his letter of resignation:

After having repeatedly examined my conscience before God, I have come to the certainty that my strengths, due to an advanced age, are no longer suited to an adequate exercise of the Petrine ministry. . . . in order to govern the barque of Saint Peter and proclaim the Gospel, both strength of mind and body are necessary, strength which in the last few months, has deteriorated in me to the extent that I have had to recognize my incapacity to adequately fulfill the ministry entrusted to me.

Case closed. A revered pope has clarified his own personal situation. We need not invoke the Freemasons, the mafia, dissident Churchmen, or some other nefarious or conspiratorial scheme (such as it being “immoral” and “abandoning the flock to wolves”: as Dr. Marshall’s reactionary buddy Michael Voris asserted in one of his countless videos).

I’ve been saying for six years now that traditionalists and the more extreme reactionaries like Taylor Marshall, are turning more and more against Pope Benedict (and popes since 1958) as time goes on. They used to love him. He was the cat’s meow because he talked about liturgy and criticized the liberal dissidents (as he well should!). But then he resigned. Now (after years of increasing bitterness and resentment) he is being accused (much more explicitly in Dr. Marshall’s many You Tube videos) of not even being doctrinally orthodox. It was Pope Benedict XVI, writing as a high-ranking Cardinal in The Ratzinger Report of 1985, who explained:

It must be stated that Vatican II is upheld by the same authority as Vatican I and the Council of Trent, namely, the Pope and the College of Bishops in communion with him, and that also with regard to its contents, Vatican II is in the strictest continuity with both previous councils and incorporates their texts word for word in decisive points . . .

Whoever accepts Vatican II, as it has clearly expressed and understood itself, at the same time accepts the whole binding tradition of the Catholic Church, particularly also the two previous councils . . . It is likewise impossible to decide in favor of Trent and Vatican I but against Vatican II. Whoever denies Vatican II denies the authority that upholds the other two councils and thereby detaches them from their foundation. And this applies to the so-called ‘traditionalism,’ also in its extreme forms. . . .

To defend the true tradition of the Church today means to defend the Council.

Dr. Marshall, on the other hand, pontificates over against Holy Mother Church and Pope Benedict XVI:

Devout Catholics often defend Vatican II by saying that it was ‘hijacked,’ and that is certainly the case, but the question is when, and by whom. As will become clear, Pope John XXIII, and his favorites, Bugnini, Bea, and Montini [Pope St. Paul VI], had already set the optimistic new order, or novus ordo, agenda.

Reactionaries think they are so Catholic: much more than the rest of us poor ignorant peasants (they “get” it; they’re the elite and the cream of the crop: so they constantly tell themselves), but in fact they are steeped in the principles of “do your own thing” / “arbitrarily pick and choose” cafeteria Catholic authority of the very liberal dissident Catholics whom they despise.

Consistent, observant, pious, devout Catholics always exercise the utmost respect for ecumenical councils and for popes (and that does not necessarily reduce to ultramontanism and “papolatry”). They don’t sit around making videos (with all of 13 years of lived Catholicism) mocking and disparaging both councils and popes, and lecturing all the rest of us, as if they possess magisterial Catholic authority. It’s a disgrace. St. Paul and St. James condemned and warned about this sort of thing:

2 Timothy 4:3-4 (RSV) For the time is coming when people will not endure sound teaching, but having itching ears they will accumulate for themselves teachers to suit their own likings, [4] and will turn away from listening to the truth and wander into myths.

St. Paul showed more respect for the Jewish high priest who was opposing Christianity, than reactionaries do to popes:

Acts 23:1-5 And Paul, looking intently at the council, said, “Brethren, I have lived before God in all good conscience up to this day.” [2] And the high priest Anani’as commanded those who stood by him to strike him on the mouth. [3] Then Paul said to him, “God shall strike you, you whitewashed wall! Are you sitting to judge me according to the law, and yet contrary to the law you order me to be struck?” [4] Those who stood by said, “Would you revile God’s high priest?” [5] And Paul said, “I did not know, brethren, that he was the high priest; for it is written, `You shall not speak evil of a ruler of your people.'”

It comes down to what one believes — in faith, by God’s grace — about ecumenical councils. It’s a matter of faith. Traditionally, Catholics have believed that they are guided by the Holy Spirit. They possess infallible authority if they authoritatively clarify long-held doctrines, in agreement with the pope.

There have always been scoundrels and palace intrigue at every council, because men are sinners. And there has been uproar and confusion after every council, too. If people knew their Church history, they would know this, and the current problems would be put in much better perspective. It’s nothing new. It’s not the end of the Church as we know and love her. St. Paul was struggling with the Corinthian and Galatian churches (even including sexual sin). There is nothing new under the sun. So, for example, Joseph Francis Kelly writes:

This initial ecumenical council foreshadowed elements of many others, one of which was a confused reaction following the council. . . . historically speaking, after councils some participants often have second thoughts about what happened or are surprised at the reaction of others to the council’s work. (The Ecumenical Councils of the Catholic Church: A History, Liturgical Press, 2009, p. 25)

Have reactionaries never heard of the Old Catholics and their rejection of papal infallibility? That was a schism in the Church due to Vatican I’s definition of papal infallibility. They dissed the council, just as Taylor Marshall is now doing with Vatican II.

This is why indefectibility is such a glorious guarantee. It overcomes the attempts of men to wreck things and destroy the faith. Taylor Marshall and people who think as he does can only see evil men, plots, and (supposedly successful) wicked conspiracies. We are looking at it with the eyes of faith, and see a God Who is much bigger than all that, who can turn around even the worst of situations. Chesterton stated: “at least five times in history the Church has gone to the dogs, but in each case, the dog died.”

Vatican II is completely orthodox and a wonderful exposition of the Catholic faith. It’s an ecumenical council. Catholics believe that doctrine continues to develop and is ever more understood. Blessed Cardinal Newman classically explained that in 1845 in his “Essay on the Development of Doctrine” (key in my own conversion in 1990). Vatican II is part of that. This is why we love it or should love it. It is the fully developed Mind of the Church in our time, along with the papal encyclicals of the last 60 years, including St. Paul VI’s heroic Humanae Vitae (1968) and St. John Paul II’s magnificent Evangelium Vitae (1995).

Taylor Marshall seems to have a very stunted, limited understanding of these things. And in my opinion, it’s because he has reverted and digressed back to the ecclesiological pablum of his former Anglicanism. He’s not thinking as a Catholic should think. This is my point. So when I say that Taylor has reverted to Anglicanism, I mean in spirit, in how he thinks about authority; in important presuppositions that are hostile to Catholicism rightly understood. But he is canonically a Catholic. This is the tragedy of it, and exactly why I refer to these folks as radical Catholic reactionaries.

The twisting of a thing is completely different from the thing itself (throwing the baby out with the bath water). The Bible itself is twisted and distorted and abused all the time. Does it follow that IT is a bad thing, to be rejected? Obviously not. I detest the myths about Vatican II that lead to this sort of bilge of people rejecting it altogether, rather than the thinking of folks who lie about what it teaches and pretend that it teaches false notions that it never teaches.

Lastly, I agree that many groups have tried to infiltrate the Church. The radical homosexuals are the ones in our day. The liberals have been trying to wreck Catholicism since the French Revolution. My mentor, Servant of God Fr. John A. Hardon, SJ (who received me into the Church and enthusiastically endorsed my first book, A Biblical Defense of Catholicism) said often that modernism is the culmination of all heresies, and that the modernist crisis is the greatest in the history of the Church. I agree 100%!

My response to that, though, is that the Church is led and protected by the Holy Spirit and is indefectible; therefore, all such attempts fail in the long run. Reactionaryism is the counsel of despair. The orthodox Catholic is always hopeful and believes that God is in control and that all things work together for good (Romans 8:28).

Conspiratorialism is a dead-end street; the fool’s way out, and a plain dumb and intellectually naive and vacant interpretation of very complex events and ideas. Much better is traditional Catholic grace-empowered faith: particularly in the indefectibility of the Church, God’s providence, and the scriptural knowledge that sinners are always present in the Church (parable of the wheat and tares, seven churches of Revelation, etc.).

In this vision and way of life, we know and believe that God is always in control and protects Holy Mother Church despite our repeated attempts to bring it down to the dirt and filth of human sin and nefarious aspirations for power, rebellion against God, and all the rest.

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November 14, 2023

On November 11, Bishop Joseph Strickland of the Diocese of Tyler, Texas was relieved of his position by Pope Francis. It was a long time coming. Mike Lewis, in his article, “On Strickland’s Removal” (Where Peter Is, 11-11-23) summed up the many reasons why, and I will in turn summarize them as briefly as I can. Bp. Strickland’s own words will be in blue.

On July 8, 2022, Strickland shared a link to a video entitled “Pope Francis, Nancy Pelosi & the Tyrannical Culture of Death.” The video (dated 7-3-22) was produced by the reactionary publication The Remnant, and consists of editor Michael Matt bashing Pope Francis. Bp. Strickland described the video as “A sad commentary on the Church and state in our time.” Brian Killian, in an article about this on the same day, cited some of the material in the video:

  • “Rome and Pope Francis have lost teaching authority.”
  • “I have no temptation to leave my Church for the same reason that Francis is always attacking it, because it’s the true Church and a diabolically disoriented clown like Francis knows that it is it’s his job to destroy this Church because he has to get rid of true religion.”
  • “Francis isn’t even pretending to be a moral authority on anything other than climate change and equity.”
  • “This pope is preaching an entirely new gospel, and under his guidance the Catholic Church, which used to be consider the light on the hill…the Catholic Church cannot now be trusted.”
  • “Francis is in opposition to 2000 years of Church teaching.”
  • Christian teaching “is all being gradually undermined by the Francis experiment, which of course is just a continuation of the experiment of the Second Vatican Council”

Quite possibly in reaction against Killian’s article, Bp. Strickland tweeted the next day: “My intention with this was not to disparage Pope Francis but to acknowledge how devastating this commentary is.” But he neither removed nor apologized for the original Tweet, or expressed any disagreement with it. In fact, on July 12, 2022, Bp. Strickland appeared on Virgin Most Powerful Internet Radio and defended the video:

[he decided to post a link to the video on his Twitter page because] as a bishop, as a shepherd, I promised to guard the deposit of faith. And I have an obligation to do that. And the deposit of faith is under attack  . . . this speaks truth, and it needs to be addressed. . . . The most loving, respectful, and obedient thing I can do for Pope Francis, for all the cardinals of the Roman Curia, for every bishop, every priest is to proclaim the truth of Jesus Christ. . . . I didn’t see anything [in the video] that wasn’t true.

Mike Lewis accurately predicted over a year ago (July 13, 2022): “A fix for this disharmony between bishop and pope in the near future does not appear likely. So the only question is when, and if, Francis will relieve him of his duties.”

Bp. Strickland has, as Killian noted, “publicly and repeatedly praised and supported” [tweet now removed] the controversial suspended priest, Fr. James Altman. . . . He has shared videos featuring Altman that have scandalized members of the faithful with racist content, foul language . . .” I followed the link that Killian provided, on Internet Archive. The latter, in a scan dated March 25, 2022, shows what was removed from Bp. Strickland’s Twitter page (originally dated 5-24-21):

Fr James Altman is in trouble for speaking the truth. I originally supported him when he spoke bold truth during the election. I continue to support him for speaking the truth in Jesus Christ. He inspires many to keep the faith during these dark days. Let us pray for him. 

This was retweeted 921 times and had 4,166 likes and 373 comments, as of the date of the scan I found. Killian observed that Bp. Strickland had “repeatedly and regularly promoted conspiracy theories, . . . misinformation, dissent from the Magisterium, and opposition to Pope Francis and his teachings.”

On May 12, 2023, Bp. Strickland tweeted: “I believe Pope Francis is the Pope but it is time for me to say that I reject his program of undermining the Deposit of Faith. Follow Jesus.” As of this writing, this blasphemous, slandering, scandalous tweet had garnered 324,000 views, 439 comments, 621 retweets, and 2,600 likes. Mike Lewis commented on this the next day:

With this tweet, Bishop Strickland appears to have finally crossed the line into direct and explicit opposition to Pope Francis and his teaching authority. In the past, Strickland has hinted that he holds such opinions about the pope, but typically stopped short of stating them explicitly. . . . He also signed an open letter [dated 9-16-22] last year accusing Pope Francis of teaching heresy in the apostolic letter Desiderio Desideravi.

Mike Lewis wrote in his article dated 11-11-23:

Since June, Bishop Strickland’s rhetoric and actions have only become more extreme. Just a few days ago, LifeSiteNews released the full transcript of a speech Strickland delivered in Rome on October 31. In his speech, Strickland read aloud a letter from a “dear friend” that espoused explicitly sedevacantist ideas and alluded to passages in scripture suggesting that Pope Francis is the Antichrist.

Lewis provided more details about this letter in an article dated 11-8-23:

He then described his friend as “a deep, deep believer, a lover of our Lord Jesus Christ, a true disciple, a lover of the Church, a lover of the Petrine office in every aspect of our Catholic faith.” And he said that he received this letter as “a deeply challenging message to me,” adding, “it’s not just to me, it’s to all of us. It says some strong things. But I want to assure you that this friend has a deep love for Christ and His Church, for Pope Francis.”

Parts of this letter were posted on LifeSite a week ago, including its opening sentences:

Francis is an expert at producing cowards by preaching dialogue and openness in a welcoming spirit and by highlighting always his own authority. He makes it seem that one who opposes him and what he proposes is an enemy of the Church. And yet it is not the blood of the cowards that is the seed of the Church. It is the blood of the martyrs. . . .

As inflammatory and insulting as those comments are, the November 1 article left out the most controversial sections of the letter read by the bishop, including statements that openly reject the legitimacy of Pope Francis’s pontificate, such as (emphasis added), “Would you now allow this one who has pushed aside the true Pope and has attempted to sit on a chair that is not his define what the Church is to be. ‘As for the beast, it was and is not. It is an eighth but it belongs to the seventh, and it goes to destruction.’”

This statement — essentially a declaration of sedevacantism — caused Strickland to pause and interject, “You’re probably smarter than I am. I’m not sure what that last part is talking about, and I didn’t have the chance to ask.” The last sentence was a quote from scripture — Revelation 17:11 — a passage historically interpreted by anti-Catholic Protestants as a reference to the pope as a false ruler on the road to perdition. This argument has more recently been adopted by schism-minded Catholics as a reference to Pope Francis.

Nevertheless, Strickland continued to read the letter, which next suggested that Francis is an “usurper” who supports abortion and does not believe repentance is necessary for salvation (emphasis added):

Christ has proclaimed the sanctity of life. It cannot be otherwise than sanctified, because He has created it, and He has died for it. And yet this usurper of Peter’s chair has counted life as nought, for he has endangered souls by proclaiming that they are justified before God as they are, with no need of repentance. And he has welcomed those who glorify abortion and has offered to correct no correction, thereby counting the lives of all those babies who have perished in this manner as nothing.

The letter concludes with what its author (and the bishop) likely see as a courageous battle cry:

Play nicely? While the devil leads souls to hell? Play nicely? While Francis proclaims the devil’s voice to be the voice of the Holy Spirit? The streets of Rome are now littered with cowards. Where is the one who will say with Ignatius of Antioch, ‘Now I begin to be a disciple. Let fire and Cross, flocks of beasts, broken bones, dismemberment, come upon me. So long as I attain to Jesus Christ.’ . . .

After reading the letter, Bishop Strickland commented, “As I said, those are challenging words.” He also said, “Hopefully you’ll agree that that letter from a friend that I just shared reminds us, this part of our walk—for every one of us here, men and women, clergy, laity, all of us—this is a very challenging portion of our Emmaus walk of faith.” . . . 

Strickland made it very clear later in his speech that he does not intend to stop, saying,

And frankly, one of the most frustrating things that’s coming out of the Vatican and supported, at least, by Pope Francis, is the attack on the sacred. 

I note in passing (for those who may be wondering) that I disagree with Mike Lewis about President Trump, some aspects of the COVID vaccine and how it was implemented and forced on people, and about pro-abortion politicians receiving Holy Communion (and on some of these issues I would actually agree — to varying degrees – with Bp. Strickland’s stated positions). If Mike actually votes Democrat in this day and age, I think that is ludicrous and indefensible (since virtually all high-level Democrats nowadays are pro-aborts, and usually favor abortion up to the day of birth).

But what I do cite from his words, I agree with. He has done the needed reporting on this loose cannon, and has been prophetic in his warnings. If people had heeded his words a year ago, they would have been aware of Bp. Strickland’s serious errors and wouldn’t have been so shocked at his removal (not to mention hopefully prevented from following this dangerous man).

Brian Fraga, writing for National Catholic Reporter (11-11-23) quoted a priest in Bp. Strickland’s diocese:

Fr. Tim Kelly, . . . told NCR that Strickland “used to be a nice, unassuming, likable man” until he reached a sort of “celebrity” status among hardline conservative Catholics. Kelly said the bishop “ruined lives and ruptured decades-old friendships,” as his stature grew in traditionalist circles.

“Families have stopped going to Mass because of his unkind words,” Kelly said. “He needs time for reflection. He needs time to rebuild the bridges he burned when anger and certainty of his own righteousness consumed him.”

I’m interested in how various people and parties have responded to these developments. Do they reject sedevacantism and the extreme radical Catholic reactionary views that Bp. Strickland has expressed, or do they dig in and further the conspiratorial and quasi-schismatic mentality and mindset? From the known reactionaries and their confused fellow travelers and pope-bashers or papal nitpickers (all nattering nabobs of negativism), the response was utterly predictable:

Eric Sammons, editor at the reactionary Crisis Magazine, tweeted:

Seeing the viciousness of attacks on Bishop Strickland following his removal by the pope from people who probably never heard of him until recently reminds me how many Catholics treat Catholicism as a cult of the pope.

Pope-basher Philip Lawler joined in:

If you’re an American bishop inclined to question the Pope’s leadership– which at this point means any bishop interested in preserving the faith intact– you just got an unmistakable message.

So did Fr. Dwight Longenecker:

Insecure, mediocre leaders always quash their critics with force. In today’s world they do so while telling everyone how they are “good listeners”.

John-Henry Westen, the big cheese at the pathetic LifeSite News rag, wrote: “Let’s stand with Bishop Joseph Strickland!”

Bishop Athanasius Schneider described this turn of events as a “dark page in the life of the Church.” And he also wrote (incredibly):

Bishop Strickland will probably go down in history as an ‘Athanasius of the Church in the USA,’ who however, unlike St. Athanasius, is not persecuted by the secular power, but incredibly by the Pope himself. It seems that a kind of “purge” of Bishops, who are faithful to the immutable Catholic Faith and the Apostolic discipline, and which has been going on already for some time, has reached now a decisive phase.

Michael J. Matt, bigwig at The Remnant, tweeted:

This is total war. Francis is a clear and present danger not only to Catholics the world over but also to the whole world itself. It appears now that he is actively trying to bury fidelity to the Church of Jesus Christ. Let him be anathema.

And again: “God bless you, Bishop Strickland, and thank you for showing us how it’s done. God wins in the end.”

The virtually (at this point) insane Abp. Carlo Maria Viganò (I’ve documented his outrageous and blasphemous errors many times) predictably ranted:

The removal of His Excellency Archbishop Joseph Strickland, especially after the failure to ambush him with the Apostolic Visitation, appears as a cowardly form of authoritarianism, . . . This affair will reveal who stands with the true Church of Christ and who chooses to stand with His declared enemies. To remain silent and endure this umpteenth violation of the most basic principles of justice and truth is to make oneself complicit with a subverter.

The extreme reactionary Peter Kwasniewski (the great Vatican ONE basher) pontificated:

What were the “crimes”? The same question was asked about Bishop Daniel Fernandez Torres (indeed, he asked it himself), and the same crickets in response. Tyranny pure and simple.

Timothy Gordon didn’t want to miss out on the surreal, deluded love-feast, either: “Prayers and thanks for you, Bishop Strickland. I’m so sorry that you too—like all of us—are a parish orphan with an abusive stepfather in Rome.”

I’m blocked on Taylor Marshall’s Twitter page, so I can’t see what he wrote. But I don’t feel like vomiting today, anyway.

Much better is the response of my good friend and fellow Michigander and Catholic apologist Steve Ray (a strong papal critic but not a reactionary). At first he tweeted:

The feared news falls as the Pope cuts a good bishop off at the kneecaps. And why? Good question. We will await an answer. It seems the Pope will broach no opposition or “rigidness”. This will paralyze other bishops who fear the heavy-handed tactics of Francis and his Vatican.

But then within three hours on the same day (11-11-23) he wrote:

There have come to my attention some things said by Bishop Strickland just recently about Pope Francis and the chair of Peter. I’m looking into it more extensively, but if true, it is troubling.

Because Steve is not a reactionary he makes the absolutely correct response: rejection of the poisonous error of sedevacantism, or if not that, extreme, irrational, venomous, hysterical papal bashing. The rest just go right on, oblivious, not missing a beat, the blind leading the blind, in their literal hatred of the Holy Father, while the American Catholic Church continues to go to hell in a handbasket, with endless conspiratorialism, “Americanist” rejection of authority, tragic, counterproductive division and contentiousness, and slanderous scandal-mongering.

Meanwhile, souls are being lost every minute, and how many Protestants or Orthodox Christians would want to join a Church with this sort of idiotic in-fighting occurring within it? Speaking for myself, though, as an evangelical (which I was from 1977-1990), I would have immediately seen right through this travesty: the ludicrous, highly ironic spectacle of Catholics who either relentlessly trash and lie about their own (theologically orthodox) pope or deny that he even is the pope? That would have immediately appeared more ridiculous and worthless to me than the sentence, “water isn’t wet.”

Lastly, I hasten to add that many people out there knew of Bp. Strickland (before the latest events) mainly from his statements on morality that they agreed with, and were unaware of the extreme opinions such as those I documented above. That’s fine. We’re not responsible for what we don’t know. I never read anything about him or his own words before this incident, by the way. But anyone who has read this article no longer has any excuse of ignorance.

Whoever supports this dissenter, knowing the above information, partakes of his sins, his quasi-schismatic, quasi-sedevacantist mentality, and his indefensible, utterly unCatholic rebellion. Don’t do it! If you don’t want — no longer believe in — a pope and the papacy that God has provided for you, become an Anglican or other kind of Protestant, or Orthodox, and cease annoying us with your anti-Catholic inanities and vapid polemics.

See also Michael Lofton’s excellent videos about Bp. Strickland:

Bishop Strickland’s Accusation of Pope Francis (June 2023)

BREAKING: Bishop Strickland to be Visited by Vatican Officials (July 2023)

Is Bishop Strickland on His Way Out? (August 2023)

Is Bishop Strickland on His Way Out? (11-4-23)

Bishop Strickland Removed by Pope Francis! (11-9-23)

Is Bishop Strickland on His Way Out? (11-9-23)

Bishop Strickland Removed by Pope Francis! (11-11-23)

Bishop Strickland REMOVED From Ministry: Why and What’s Next (11-11-23)

Satan’s Propaganda About Bishop Strickland and Pope Francis (11-12-23)

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Summary: I document the extreme statements of Bp. Joseph Strickland, that led to his removal, & chronicle the pathetic reactions to same from reactionaries & pope-bashers.

September 28, 2021

I coined the term radical Catholic reactionary on 3 August 2013. If anyone else claims they did, or that someone besides myself did, they’re lying or misinformed. I was the one; and I did so for very specific reasons (and I thought, practical, sociological, and charitable ones), as I will explain further below.

First, I’d like to go down a list of what the radical Catholic reactionary — as I have carefully defined it (and this hasn’t changed at all in eight years) — is not: based on innumerable times hearing incorrect definitions wrongly assumed to be my own. One tires of this, so I think the time has come for this explanatory post. Maybe this method will make my point more effectively.

The following are not characteristics of the radical Catholic reactionary, according to my own conception, as the originator of the term.

The Ten “Negative” Points

1. It’s not a person who denies that Pope Francis (or any future pope) is a valid pope.

2. It’s not a person who denies that the Pauline (“New” / “ordinary form”) Mass is a valid Mass.

3. It’s not a person who denies that the Second Vatican Council (or, Vatican II) is a valid ecumenical council.

4. It’s not any person whatsoever who criticizes the pope.

5. It’s not a person who thinks that not all ecumenical efforts (outreach to other Christians or non-Christians) are helpful or undertaken with the right premises and/or methodology.

6. It’s not a person who points out that papal pronouncements have differing levels of authority.

7. It’s not necessarily a person in the SSPX (though some in that group would actually fit the characteristics I have noted).

8. It has nothing to do with a person’s personality or how obnoxious or arrogant, etc. they might be.

9. It’s not a person who simply prefers the liturgical outlook and practices of the traditional Latin Mass (TLM).

10. It’s not a person who likes “old-fashioned” Catholic things like the old cathedrals, head veils, ad orientem, all male altar servers, receiving the Holy Eucharist kneeling, on the tongue, from the priest, etc.

Expansion on the Ten “Negative” Points

1a. That would be, of course, a sedevacantist: the belief that there is no currently sitting pope.

2a. I’ve met virtually no one who thought that, save for sedevacantists and Protestants. Some in the SSPX might as well.

3a. Again, I’ve met virtually no one who thought that, save for the Eastern Orthodox and Protestants.

4a. I have never ever denied (see papers on this topic: one / two / three / four / five / six) that there is a time and a place for such criticism (rarely), on the right topic, with extreme reverence, from the right person, and preferably as private as possible, not public.

5a. There are indeed right and wrong ways to do legitimate Catholic ecumenism. More on this below.

6a. I do this myself (see an article from 1999).

7a. The SSPX, like any group, has members with differing views, to some extent. See: “The Status of the Society of St. Pius X” [Catholic Answers] (+ Part 2)

8a. Like a good sociologist of religion, I go strictly by beliefs in these definitions, not behavior. You can have, then, a very nice reactionary and a totally obnoxious “conservative” Catholic (I could quickly name off ten of those, but in charity . . .).

9a. That would be myself. My family attended such a parish for 25 years.

10a. I prefer, or have largely preferred in my Catholic life, and/or have defended in my apologetics, all of these things, save for all male altar servers (I have made arguments against that being necessarily the only way to go about things).

The Central Identifying Characteristic of the Radical Catholic Reactionary

From a dialogue I engaged in, on my definitions:

Reactionaryism is all about going up to a “line” but not crossing over it; trying to have it both ways. So, e.g., “Vatican II is valid but we should simply ignore it, or it has harmed the Church,” “The New Mass is valid but it is objectively terrible [and inferior] liturgy and we ought not attend it (having a choice),” etc. etc. ad nauseam. . . .

Reactionaries (as I have categorized them, from long observation and experience) accept Vatican II as valid and not objectively heretical, but rather hampered by ambiguities deliberately injected into the texts by subversive dissident radicals. . . .

Reactionaries accept all the popes as valid. But they want to complain about and rebuke and second-guess popes all the time (“more Catholic than the pope”). It’s primarily an attitudinal problem and not having an understanding of traditional reverence towards the pope (thinking like Protestants: particularly Anglicans). [blue coloring added presently]

And from another related paper:

I define “radical Catholic reactionaries” as a rigorist, divisive group completely separate from mainstream “traditionalism” that continually, vociferously, and vitriolically (as a marked characteristic or defining trait) bashes and trashes popes, Vatican II, the New Mass, and ecumenism (the “big four”): going as far as they can go without technically crossing over the canonical line of schism. In effect, they become their own popes: exercising private judgment in an unsavory fashion, much as (quite ironically) Catholic liberals do, and as Luther and Calvin did when they rebelled against the Church. They can’t live and let live. They must assume a condescending “superior-subordinate” orientation. [blue coloring added presently]

Explanation of My Orthodox Catholic Outlook and Critique, Over Against the Ten “Negative” Points

1b. The game here that the reactionaries play is to not deny that Pope Francis is pope, but at the same time heaping every imaginable insult upon him. I don’t know if Catholic philosopher Ed Feser is a full-blooded reactionary or not (exhibiting the four hallmarks). But in terms of bashing the pope, he exemplifies to the max the mindset I just described, and is an example of how reactionaries habitually and contemptuously treat Pope Francis:

Catholic teaching has always acknowledged that popes can make grave mistakes of various kinds when they are not exercising the fullness of their authority in ex cathedra decrees.  Usually, errant popes exhibit serious failings of only one or two sorts.  But Pope Francis seems intent on achieving a kind of synthesis of all possible papal errors.  Like Honorius I and John XXII, he has made doctrinally problematic statements (and more of them than either of those popes ever did).  Like Vigilius, his election and governance have involved machinations on the part of a heterodox party.  The Pachamama episode brings to mind Marcellinus and John XII.  Then there are the bad episcopal appointments, the accommodation to China’s communist government, and the clergy sexual abuse scandal, which echo the mismanagement, political folly, corruption and decadence of previous eras in papal history.  And now we have this repeat of Victor’s high-handedness.  Having in this way insulted a living predecessor, might Francis next ape Pope Stephen VI by exhuming a dead one and putting the corpse on trial?

Probably not.  But absolutely nothing would surprise me anymore in this lunatic period in history that we’re living through. (“Pope Victor Redux?”, 7-18-21)

Note that Feser vociferously denies having classified Pope Francis as a heretic (including in heated “dialogue” with myself). But he sure does everything he can to get the Holy Father right up there with all the worst popes, doesn’t he? He goes absolutely as far as he can possibly, logically / theologically / canonically go without outright classifying the pope as a heretic. And that is precisely the central identifying characteristic of the reactionary; absolutely quintessential, textbook. So even if he is not a reactionary in all respects (I suspect not), yet he acts towards the pope exactly as reactionaries do, and in a more extreme degree than many.

2b. The same legalistic, “let’s see how far we can go!” spirit is evident in how the reactionary views the Pauline / “New” Mass. Many of them absolutely detest and despise it; yet always without denying its validity. In many ways, The Great Facade: Vatican II and the Regime of Novelty in the Roman Catholic Church, by Christopher A. Ferrara and Thomas E. Woods, Jr. (self-published by The Remnant Press in 2002) has been the “Bible” of the reactionary movement. It set the template for the outrageous conspiratorial, pope-bashing and/or reactionary books we have now, from Phil Lawler and Taylor Marshall. Whether any given reactionary is aware of it or not, the way he or she thinks was all laid out in this book 19 years ago, and the thinking has spread like wildfire in the “ecclesiological far-right” sectors of the Church. He exhibits the textbook mentality when he addresses the validity of the New Mass:

The new rite is also markedly inferior in its presentation of Catholic doctrine . . . if even a moderately educated Catholic can see this, how can the Pope fail to see it? (p. 96)

To claim that the new Mass represents a striking departure from tradition, which it obviously does, is not necessarily to say that it is invalid per se. We certainly do not think so, and neither do the overwhelming majority of traditionalists. . . . Having said this, however, surely we have a right to insist on more than the bare minimum of mere validity. No one hosting an elegant dinner party announces with pride that nothing at the table is fatally poisonous. (p. 98)

I submit that “a moderately educated Catholic” also knows enough to be aware that a valid Mass allows believers to be in the presence of Jesus Christ our Lord: Body, Blood, Soul, and Divinity, and to receive Him sacramentally: the most profound regularly occurring miracle in the world. But that “bare minimum” is not enough to spare this “Church-approved” Mass from the derision and mockery of the reactionary!

3b. We see exactly the same mentality and mindset with regard to the Second Vatican Council. Today, no one I know of illustrates this  better than card-carrying reactionary Peter Kwasniewski, and his scandalous article, “The Second Vatican Council Is Now Far Spent” (12-11-19), complete with a gratuitous swipe at me (the good doctor used to dialogue with me, back when he was trashing Summorum Pontificum and I was defending it; but he has decided to cease doing so):

It’s important, in any case, not to look too closely into the history of the Council and the shaping of its documents; the manifold lines of influence connecting nouvelle théologie and ressourcement with Modernism; the way Paul VI and his episcopal and curial appointments adopted a line that conflicted with Catholic beliefs and instincts on point after point; and above all, the final stages of the liturgical reform (ca. 1963–1974), which, in its artisanal blend of faux ancient, quasi-Eastern, and de novo sources, “active participation,” options galore, vernacular, and new music, resembles nothing Roman or Catholic from all the centuries of the Church’s history and enjoys validity in a vacuum. Those who broach such issues are not engaged in a serious way, but are written off as “radical Catholic reactionaries” whom everyone should be strong-armed — or Armstronged? — to avoid like the plague. I suppose that’s one way to deal with uncomfortable truths, but it’s not recommended for those seeking the real causes of today’s crisis. . . .

Fr. Longenecker still believes in the “hermeneutic of continuity” between the premodern Church and the Church of Vatican II. This hermeneutic died when Pope Benedict resigned. . . .

As a historical event, Vatican II is receding farther and farther into the past — and into irrelevance. . . . If it disappeared into thin air, what of lasting value would we actually lose? . . .

To Fr. Longenecker’s question, then — “What shall we do about Vatican II?” — I suggest we leave it alone, leave it behind, leave it in peace, . . .

Not content to more or less completely trash an ecumenical council (while of course never dreaming of denying its validity), in his last paragraph he goes after the previous ecumenical council: Vatican I (from 1870):

If I might change the conversation, I would say a more pressing question is: “What shall we do about Vatican I?” This past Sunday, December 8, marked the 150th anniversary of the opening of a council that would forever change the way Catholics perceived and interacted with the papacy — the impetus for a runaway hyperpapalism capable of leveling centuries of tradition. In many ways, we are more threatened today by the spirit of Vatican I, which it will take a mighty exorcism to drive away.

Thus we see another troubling aspect of the reactionary: Kwasniewski is not just disenchanted with Vatican II. Like Luther, and like heterodox and dissident liberal Catholics, he goes after Vatican I as well. This proves that his antipathy is to the very ecclesiological system of Catholicism altogether. Martin Luther (at the famous Diet of Worms in 1521: “Here I stand” and all that) used that pretext to appeal to sola Scriptura and private judgment as his new rule of faith, over against councils and popes “who can and do err.” Kwasniewski goes half way and clings to unCatholic private judgment and “we know more than popes and ecumenical councils.”

Yes, he’s still Catholic, but why does he even bother to be one anymore, I wonder?

4b. The “no one can ever criticize the pope without Armstrong calling him a ‘basher’ and a “reactionary'” canard has been dealt with many times in my papers:

On Rebuking Popes & Catholic Obedience to Popes [12-27-17]

On Rebuking Popes & Obedience to Popes, Part II [12-28-17]

Pope-Criticism: Vigorous Exchanges w Karl Keating [3-27-18]

Do I Think Popes Can Never be Criticized for Any Reason? Nope. (I Respectfully Criticize the Prudence of Pope Francis’ Repeated Interviews with an Atheist Who Lies About Him [Eugenio Scalfari]) [3-31-18]

Are Pope-Critics Evil? Reply to Karl Keating [4-13-18]

Kwasniewski vs. Cdl. Newman Re Pope- & Council-Bashing [12-3-20]

Pope Francis: Popes Can be Respectfully Criticized [7-21-21]

My Supposed”Papolatry”: Outrageous Reactionary Lies [8-26-21]

I wrote on 8-6-13:

The non-trad often also gets accused of taking every papal word as GOSPEL TRVTH. If the pope tells us to wear green pants, that’s infallible. If he says you have  to blow your nose on odd-numbered dates with a full moon only, that’s infallible and de fide dogma. It’s a ridiculous false charge coming from a ridiculous point of view. Illustrate the absurd by being absurd . . .

5b. The reactionary claims that all or almost all Catholic efforts at ecumenism and inter-religious dialogue logically reduce to indifferentism: the view that all religious views are relative and none better than the other. This is a lie. Ferrara again provides a textbook example of how reactionaries approach ecumenism:

Much of the ecumenical movement in our age . . . betrays very strong Modernist influences. In the Modernist schema, religious dogma is not absolute and irreformable, but rather a vague, imprecise reflection of a common religious “feeling” within a human race that is in a constant state of evolution and flux . . .

[I]f none of what we have just described qualifies as “indifferentist ecumenism,” what on earth does? (Ibid., 211-212)

I have addressed this nonsense many times:

Ecumenical Gatherings at Assisi: A Defense: Ecumenism in St. Thomas Aquinas (Fr. Alfredo M. Morselli) [8-1-99]

Dialogue: Vatican II & Other Religions (Nostra Aetate) [8-1-99]

Biblical Evidence for Ecumenism (“A Biblical Approach to Other Religions”) [National Catholic Register, 8-9-17]

Is VCII’s Nostra Aetate “Religiously Pluralistic” & Indifferentist? [6-7-19]

Dignitatis Humanae & Religious Liberty [7-18-19]

6b-10b. These issues were all I sufficiently dealt within the “a” section above.

Why Did I Coin the Term “Radical Catholic Reactionary??

[from my 2013 paper on this topic; numbers and some bracketed interjections and other minor editorial changes added]

  1. “Radical” used here: going to the roots, refers to going to the very roots of Catholic ecclesiology: the papacy, and digging it up [and I would add, the Mass, and ecumenical councils]. That’s not a dis-use of “radical”. It’s exactly what it means. “Radical” shows that it is extreme.
  2. “Catholic” in [my title] removes the tedious, boorish (never true) complaint that I am supposedly reading the recipients of the term out of the Catholic faith.
  3. “Reactionary” is a very accurate and apt title, to distinguish their extremity [and extremity on the far right, rather than far left]. They think we don’t react enough to problems. We say they overreact and incorrectly react. “Reactionary” is very descriptive of the mentality under consideration: it’s always going back (before Vatican II, back to St. Pius X, etc.), a sort of antiquarianism or making an idol of tradition (often falsely defined).
  4. Reactionaries [related to #2] are not canonically schismatics. They are Catholics in the legal sense. It’s a far larger category (the ones I describe, complaining about and trashing everything in the Church) than sedevacantists or SSPX.
  5. As an apologist I have to have some sort of way to distinguish between mainstream “traditionalists” who simply prefer the Tridentine Mass, and reactionaries [this relates to 8a above]. If I make no differentiation, I catch hell for supposedly lumping every sort of “traditionalist” together, as if I consider all of them extreme fringe wackos (which I do not at all). If I use the term “traditionalist” only, then I can’t even make the critiques I make of excesses and errors, because people will think I’m bigoted and attacking the whole movement across its entire spectrum. [this was the widespread objection to the old term radtrad] “Trad or traditionalist” not being in [my title] at all removes the objection that mainstream “traditionalists” are being tarred with the same brush. “Traditionalists” have made it abundantly clear that they resent the term radtrad. They think it is either being applied to them (false, in my case) or that it implicates them as in some way connected or associated with the reactionaries that we all know and love. I am trying to take that into consideration, in charity, and for the sake of greater unity and less misunderstanding.
  6. My job as an apologist is to critique and refute error and to try to prevent people from being 1) harmed by it, and 2) falling into it themselves. It’s easy for the non-apologist to say, “well, don’t use this term because it’s mean and causes problems.” I’m happy to discuss whether my chosen term is inadequate or uncharitable, and whether it should be discarded, but I need an alternative, because we still have the practical issue of identification for a distinct group. Again, some say that I shouldn’t use any term at all, but it’s not possible to do that as an apologist who is identifying an error and critiquing it. Its absolutely necessary to have some identifying term, as one can’t write a long sentence every time someone in the group is referenced.
  7. The beliefs that reactionaries espouse and how they view orthodox Catholics are infinitely more uncharitable and offensive and outrageous than whatever name we have in the past or will in the future call them. But I guarantee as sure as I’m sitting here that I’ll catch hell no matter what term is used. I could call them anything whatsoever and it won’t matter, because they reserve the right to use their offensive terms of orthodox Catholics, while we are supposed to have no “right” at all to identify them.
  8. For a reactionary to say that he is simply a “traditionalist” insults the vast majority of legitimate “traditionalists” in much the same way as a Mormon or Jehovah’s Witness or Unitarian calling themselves “Christians” is an insult to ones who truly are Christians (who accept the Trinity, divinity of Jesus, etc.). And these groups always reject our classification of them as “heresies” or “heretical sects” or “cults.”  It’s the very co-opting of the term to describe the narrow, objectionable group, that is completely unacceptable.

Related Reading

Radical Catholic Reactionaries: Essential Characteristics [2002]

“Radtrad”: Origins, History, & Debates on Definition [3-18-13; rev. 8-1-13 and 8-8-13]

On the Use of “Traditionalist” Preceding the Name of “Catholic”  [7-3-13]

Thoughts on the Discarded Term, Radtrad (and on the Discussion About Ditching It, and Attacks on My Sincerity) [8-6-13]

Definitions: Radical Catholic Reactionaries, Mainstream “Traditionalists,” and Supposed “Neo-Catholics” [revised 8-6-13]

Rationales for My Self-Coined Term, “Radical Catholic Reactionaries” [8-6-13]

“Traditionalist” Concerns Over Labeling and Classifications (Karl Keating’s Word Usage as a “Test Case”) [8-8-13]

My Coined Term, “Radical Catholic Reactionary”: Clarifications [10-5-17]

Keating & Double Standards on “Traditionalist” Labeling [6-3-18]

Clarifying My Coined Term, “Radical Catholic Reactionary” [4-3-20]

Definition of “Radical Catholic Reactionary”: Dialogue (With Particular Reference to [Traditionalist] Timothy Gordon) [9-6-20]

Title: “Radical Catholic Reactionaries”: Exchange w Karl Keating [3-4 December 2020]

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Photo credit: Noah1826 (5-26-17) [Wikimedia Commons / Creative Commons Attribution-Share Alike 4.0 International license]

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Summary: I go to great lengths to defend my title, “radical Catholic reactionaries”: that I coined in 2013. By explaining what it is NOT, I clear up many common misperceptions.

 

September 27, 2021

It Was Also Answered (with the Same Answers) by Pope Emeritus Benedict XVI in 2019

This is one of the standard objections that Francis-critics have against Pope Francis: “why hasn’t he answered the dubia?” I wish I had a dime for every time I’ve heard that. The dubia are five questions asked of Pope Francis, by Cardinal Raymond Burke, Cardinal Walter Brandmüller, and recently deceased Cardinals Joachim Meisner and Carlo Caffarra: dated 9 September 2016.

My friend, Dr. Robert Fastiggi, has argued that Pope Francis already in effect answered them in Amoris Laetitia itself:

Responding to the Five Dubia from Amoris Laetitia Itself (Dr. Robert Fastiggi, Vatican Insider / La Stampa, 3-9-18)

Dr. Fastiggi, commenting on my blog, has suggested a second way that Pope Francis has replied:

In the 2020 book, Let Us Dream: The Path to a Better Future, Pope Francis offers some reflections in conversation with Austen Ivereigh. On pages 87-89 of this book, Pope Francis explains the reasoning behind the approach he took in chapter 8 of Amoris Laetitia. He says this approach was suggested by Cardinal Cristoph Schoenborn of Vienna, and it is based on “the true moral doctrine of the authentic scholastic tradition of Saint Thomas.” Pope Francis explains: “There was no need to change Church law, only how it was applied” (p. 88). “Because of the immense variety of situations and circumstances people find themselves in,” the Synod agreed “on the need for a case-by-case discernment” (ibid.) Pope Francis makes it clear that the approach taken by the Synod and Amoris Laetitia does not involve any change in “law or doctrine.” Instead, it enables pastors “to walk with people who are living together or divorced, to help them see where God’s grace is operating in their lives, and to help them embrace the fullness of Church teaching” (ibid.).

Pope Francis explicitly states that Amoris Laetitia introduces no change in Church law or doctrine. This is a sufficient response to the dubia. Pope Francis does, though, highlight the need for pastors to discern whether people in irregular situations have sufficient knowledge and full culpability and to what extent they can receive the assistance of the sacraments in accordance with footnote 351 of Amoris Laetitia. These pages in Let Us Dream help us understand that chapter 8 of Amoris Laetitia involves no change in Catholic law or doctrine. Pope Francis simply highlights the need for pastors to deal with difficult cases on a case-by-case basis with proper pastoral discernment. This type of discernment is nothing new. Any good priest will tell you that he applies this type of discernment on a regular basis, especially in the Sacrament of Reconciliation.

Moreover, Pope Emeritus Benedict XVI also answered the dubia in his essay, “The Church and the Scandal of Sexual Abuse.” (10 April 2019). And he answered in the same way that Pope Francis did (namely, no, yes, yes, yes, and yes). This is explained in the article, “The Dubia Were Answered,” by Elizabeth A. Mitchell (The Catholic Thing, 5-11-19).

Any other questions, Your Eminence Cardinal Burke and Your Eminence Cardinal Brandmüller (or the legions of folks still wondering about this along with you)? Is there any part of “no” and “yes” that you don’t understand in this instance? I’m not trying to be “cute” or disrespectful; it’s a direct question, just as your dubia were. You wrote in your “Explanatory Note” for the dubia the following:

What is peculiar about these inquiries is that they are worded in a way that requires a “Yes” or “No” answer, without theological argumentation.

Very well, then, those yes and no answers have indeed been given: by this pope (twice) and (with full agreement) by the previous one (though not writing as pope). The answers are:

1) No

2) Yes

3) Yes

4) Yes

5) Yes

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Related Reading

Taylor Marshall Lies About Pope Francis & Divorce [6-8-19]

Pope Francis: Indissoluble Marriage & No Divorce (+ Analysis of Ed Feser’s “Doctrinally Problematic” Criticisms) [6-1-21]

Ed Feser, Pope Francis, Divorce, “Ambiguity”, & Implosion [6-3-21]

Lawler vs. Pope Francis #4: Communion / Buenos Aires Letter [1-3-18]

Pope Francis: Pro-Marriage & Contra “Marital Skepticism” [1-29-18]

Pope Francis’s New Document on Marriage: 12 Things to Know and Share (Jimmy Akin, National Catholic Register, 4-8-16)

Pope Francis Shatters Reformers’ Dreams with ‘Modern Family’ Document (Thomas D. Williams, Breitbart, 4-8-16)

Interpreting Amoris Laetitia ‘through the lens of Catholic tradition’ (Andrea Gagliarducci, Catholic News Agency, 4-8-16)

First Thoughts on “Amoris Laetitia” (Bishop Robert Barron, Aleteia, 4-8-16)

 “True Innovations but Not Ruptures”: Cardinal Christoph Schönborn Presents “Amoris Laetitia” (Diane Montagna, Aleteia, 4-8-16)

Pope Affirms Traditional Marriage (Bill Donohue, Newsmax, 4-8-16)

Pope Francis’s revolution has been cancelled (Damian Thompson, The Spectator, 4-8-16)

Pope Francis on love in the family (Archbishop Charles J. Chaput, CatholicPhilly.com, 4-14-16)

Pope Francis is a social conservative (Tim Stanley, The Telegraph, 4-18-16)

Amoris Laetitia and the Progressive Pope Myth (Anthony S. Layne, Catholic Stand, 4-23-16)

Cardinal Müller: Magisterium on Remarried Divorcees Unchanged by Amoris Laetitia [cites precedent in both Pope St. John Paul II and Pope Benedict XVI] (Edward Pentin, National Catholic Register, 5-4-16)

Cardinal Müller: Amoris Laetitia is in line with previous teaching on Communion (Catholic Herald, 5-4-16)

Pope okays Argentine doc on Communion for divorced and remarried (Inés San Martín, Crux, 9-12-16)

What Pope Francis said about Communion for the divorced-and-remarried (Catholic News Agency, 9-13-16)

Not heretical: Pope Francis’ approval of the Argentine bishops’ policy on invalid marriages (Dr. Jeff Mirus, Catholic Culture, 9-15-16)

Cardinal Schönborn: Pope Francis follows John Paul II’s teaching on communion (Catholic Herald, 4-8-16)

Amoris Laetitia – An Apologia for its Orthodoxy (Scott Smith, Reduced Culpability, 1-19-17)

Vatican’s Muller: No Communion For Divorced, Remarried — Not Even a Pope Can Change This (Michael W. Chapman, CNS News, 2-1-17)

Cardinal Müller, German bishops clash on interpretation of Amoris Laetitia (Catholic World News, 2-1-17)

Cardinal Müller: Communion for the remarried is against God’s law (Catholic Herald, 2-1-17)

Does Amoris Laetitia 303 Really Undermine Catholic Moral Teaching? (Robert Fastiggi & Dawn Eden Goldstein, La Stampa / Vatican Insider, 9-26-17)

Dr. Robert Fastiggi Defends Amoris Laetitia Against Critics (hosted at Biblical Evidence for Catholicism, 10-3-17)

Defending Pope Francis (Amoris Laetitia) [+ Part Two] (Tim Staples, unknown date)

Critics of Amoris laetitia ignore Ratzinger’s rules for faithful theological discourse (Robert Fastiggi & Dawn Eden Goldstein,  La Stampa / Vatican Insider, 10-4-17)

Dr. Fastiggi Replies to Dr. Brugger Regarding Amoris Laetitia (hosted at Biblical Evidence for Catholicism, 10-12-17)

Pastoral Charity is the Key to Pope Francis’s Endorsement of the Buenos Aires Bishops’ Document (Robert Fastiggi, La Stampa / Vatican Insider, 11-28-17)

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Photo credit: Pope Francis & Pope Emeritus Benedict XVI, April 2019 (New York Times / Vatican Media)

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Summary: The question is always asked: “why hasn’t Pope Francis answered the dubia?” These are five questions asked by four Cardinals (requiring only a yes or no answer). The pope has answered twice, so has the previous pope.

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September 24, 2021

He’s Supposed to Not Utter a Peep About All the Slanderous, Worthless Gossip & Rumormongering Today Among Catholics

This is a follow-up to my article, Pope Francis Did Not Say EWTN = “Work of the Devil” (Case Study in “Conservative” Catholic Media Bias, Which is Becoming as Problematic as Mainstream Liberal Media Bias) [9-22-21] The usual prattle and negativism was occurring on one Facebook page, which was about an article from pope-basher Phil Lawler, and I chimed in. A few others spoke up for the pope, too (thank God). It was not a public thread, so I can only post what I wrote. Readers can pretty much figure out what I was responding to.

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He engages those who actually want to dialogue, and who have that spirit, and he doesn’t with those who don’t: precisely as Jesus did. As for traditionalists, it was bishops who approached him about problems in that community. So he acted upon it. As I have documented, thus far, only 1-2% of all the dioceses in the world have restricted or outlawed the TLM. The sky hasn’t fallen.
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This pope isn’t perfect. But he is not the Beast and Ogre that he is made out to be, in the biggest (and most absurd) slander campaign I have ever observed outside of politics.
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As I (and the pope) argued, insofar as attacks are made on the Church, coming from EWTN and the idiotic, scandalous “papal posse” etc., it is the work of the devil. How could it not be? Catholics build up and defend Holy Mother Church. They don’t tear her down.
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Ephesians 4:29-31 (RSV) Let no evil talk come out of your mouths, but only such as is good for edifying, as fits the occasion, that it may impart grace to those who hear. [30] And do not grieve the Holy Spirit of God, in whom you were sealed for the day of redemption. [31] Let all bitterness and wrath and anger and clamor and slander be put away from you, with all malice,
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You are under the impression that I denied that he was referring to EWTN. I did not. I deny that he stated that the work of EWTN, period, was a “work of the devil” or that it does no good whatsoever. This is an unconscionable distortion of his words.
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It’s all the more outrageous and irrational when some Catholics try to tear down that which they are part and parcel of.
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For the cynical, suspicious, second-guessing mind (i.e., the typical pope-basher of today) the pope’s words were careless, calculated, etc. . For the rest of us, it is simply a good old-fashioned biblical rebuke of evil-speaking, just as St. Paul made above, and as Jesus often made to those who should have known better.
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It always has to be his fault, no matter what. Pope Francis Derangement Syndrome . . . The biblical view (long forgotten today in our unhinged rugged American individualism and extreme derision to any faint notion of monarchy) is extreme deference to leaders, which is why Paul showed deference even to the high priest (not even a Christian leader) who had him struck, saying, “I did not know, brethren, that he was the high priest; for it is written, `You shall not speak evil of a ruler of your people'” (Acts 23:5). Look at how King David treated King Saul: the “Lord’s anointed”: even though he was trying to kill him. Peter commanded Christians to honor the emperor (who at the time he wrote was Nero). Etc. All this is long forgotten today.
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He has been attacked day in and day out, and regularly by Arroyo et al, and has hardly uttered a peep about it. He dares to mention it one time, and even then he doesn’t extensively fight back; he merely mentions it in passing and primarily objects to attacks on the Church, not himself (as he made very clear), but God forbid he do that! He’s supposed to sit there forever and accept this avalanche of negativity. If he complains (even once) or rebukes, it’s obviously his fault. He has to take it, as a good little pope who is there simply to soothe all of our little needs.
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St. Paul fought back at his trial. St. Cardinal Newman wrote an entire book defending his character and life’s work from the scurrilous attacks of Charles Kingsley (Apologia pro vita sua), and in so doing won great favor in the eyes of anti-Catholic England. He was more misunderstood and slandered by Catholics after that than Anglicans. Even Jesus didn’t always turn the other cheek, as I have written about.
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Phil Lawler has lied and slandered the pope over and over in his outrageous book, that I have critiqued several times (here are three of those: one / two / three). He never defends himself, and (like Taylor Marshall, who highly recommended my books for years) blew me off as soon as I dared to criticize him (even though his site had highly praised and rated my website for many years, and his cohort Jeff Mirus not long ago gave a very glowing review of my Quotable Newman). You wanna talk about who can’t take any criticism?
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Lawler has carried on disgracefully, as have many Catholics today with whom I would otherwise have little disagreement; some of whom are my own valued and respected mentors in apologetics. It breaks my heart to see what has happened.
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And this outrage will continue into the next papacy because it is a false and despicable mindset, which is why it has increasingly spilled over onto Pope Benedict and even Pope St. John Paul II (both of whom I have defended; and how soon people forget what went on just 20 years ago). This garbage will not cease when Pope Francis dies. Mark my words.
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I have had no trouble at all defending this pope: so idiotic and groundless are the accusations: almost always. I’ve defended him 207 times. I met Lawler’s accusations, showed that they had no basis and refuted them. I see no counter-reply from him or you or anyone else. If I were Pope Francis, I wouldn’t bother with the babble and blather that his critics come up with, either. Let the apologists like me deal with it. He has much more important things to do.
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Nor did his two predecessors reply to slanderous nonsense. JPII never explained the incident of “kissing the Koran.” Pope Benedict has not answered Michael Voris’ disgusting insinuations that he exaggerated or faked illness in order to resign (which was “immoral”) and greatly let down the flock.
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So Pope Francis follows the tradition of “don’t answer a fool lest you become like them.” I’m happy to do that work for him (and them).
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[I was asked about the famous dubia: questions asked of the pope]
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I wrote an article for NCR, which is owned by EWTN, urging the pope to answer them. He decided not to. He is under no legal obligation to do so. That’s the difference between us: I respect his authority and his decisions, whether I might personally agree with him or not. I don’t second-guess him. I don’t piss and moan and grumble and gossip about it, or think I’d be a better pope than him, or claim that he is a theological ignoramus or a heretic, devoted to subverting the Church. This is Catholic piety.
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That said, my good friend Dr. Robert Fastiggi, theologian and editor and translator of the latest edition of Denzinger, argued that in effect the pope had already answered the five dubia in Amoris laetitia.
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Photo credit: TayebMEZAHDIA (7-17-18) [Pixabay / Pixabay License]
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Summary: Follow-up about Pope Francis & his remarks directed at some folks at EWTN (e.g., Arroyo) who are regularly critical of him, & (as he mostly protested) also of Holy Mother Church.

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