2018-10-15T14:46:19-04:00

Perspicuity is a fancy word for “clearness” / ease of understanding of Scripture. Carmen Bryant is a Baptist missionary and Bible scholar (M.A. and Th.M. from Western Seminary). Her words will be in blue.

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The Views of the Early Church in General

A study of the development of the doctrine Perspicuity of Scripture will show that it was not a teaching invented during the Protestant Reformation but a resurrected one.

This I deny. I affirm precisely what Carmen denies, and will copiously document this below. Various aspects of the teaching can be found in the Fathers (just as in my own view and the present-day Catholic one), but not the doctrine in its entirety, which presupposes that Scripture is the formal rule of faith apart from the Church. I maintain that that notion must be anachronistically imposed on the Fathers in order for the “case” for perspicuity amongst the Fathers to succeed.
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In looking at this doctrine in church history, it is of paramount importance to recognize that in spite of its name, Perspicuity does not mean that there is nothing obscure in Scripture. The reasons for labeling the doctrine Perspicuity of Scripture are more historical than lexicographical. In addition to whatever internal obscurity might already exist, there were external conditions imposed on Scripture that resulted in its meaning being almost totally hidden to the Christian population.

This is also a slander (knowingly or not) against the Catholic Church and its care and preservation of the Scriptures throughout the ages. No Protestant — knowing the facts of history — could have less than a tremendous gratitude towards the Catholic Church for its transmittance of Holy Scripture down to the 16th century and afterwards. The destructive theological liberalism and Higher Criticism of the Bible with which we deal today, on the other hand, originally came out of a totally Protestant milieu (largely the aftermath of Lutheran pietism in Germany; late 18th and early 19th centuries).
So I submit that if we are to examine influences destructive of a high view of Scripture as divinely-inspired, we must look far beyond the Catholic Church. Yet Carmen nowhere mentions these historical influences; only the Catholic Church is singled out, as if it were the enemy of the Scriptures, and popular knowledge of its teachings. That is sheer nonsense – the exact opposite of the truth -, as I will demonstrate as we proceed.

The Apostolic Church
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In the Church of New Testament times, Perspicuity of Scripture was assumed, not debated. The apostles used the Old Testament Scriptures to validate their message that Jesus of Nazareth was the promised Messiah. Such a methodology could succeed because God’s message in Scripture was in fact clear to the listener. 

This is no proof of perspicuity. It merely illustrates that the Apostles appealed to Scripture as the central element of their apologetic, just as the Fathers and Catholics have always done. There was still need of an authoritative interpreter. Furthermore, what is pointed to here is contained in the Bible itself; the Apostles were authoritative interpreters of the Old Testament Scriptures. They are in a far different category than Joe X. Protestant today with a Bible in his hand and a supposed direct line to the Holy Spirit for guidance. Secondly, they (especially St. Paul) continually appealed to the “tradition” passed down or handed down, which they had received from Our Lord Jesus Himself.

In that way they were again of one mind with the Fathers and Catholic methodology, which stresses apostolic succession and continuity of developing Christian doctrine, derived from the original deposit of faith. Thirdly, they did not deny the absolute necessity of a visible, institutional Church with real authority. So on all these counts, the analogy of the NT writers citing the OT is far more in line with Catholicism than Protestantism.

The apostles could reason with their listeners by appealing to Scriptures they already knew and understood. In this the apostles followed the same methodology as their Master, who repeatedly referred to the teachings of the Hebrew Scriptures in order to back up his own. Jesus rebuked his listeners for having trouble understanding him — not because they could not understand the words he was saying but because they were spiritually unprepared. The words were clear enough, but their hearts belonged to Satan and could not receive Jesus’ teachings.

Jesus was also there to correct misunderstandings; this is the whole point. He could rebuke them (as in John 6, when they – like most Protestants today – refused to accept a literal Eucharist) because He had the full authority – as God – to offer an authoritative commentary. Therefore one cannot conclude from this example that “perspicuity” as an abstract concept can ever exist apart from the authority of Jesus and the Apostles and – by extension – the Church, of which they and their successors the bishops and popes were the leaders.
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One can’t (if they are to be intellectually and exegetically honest) cite the Bible (or the Fathers) so selectively. Appeals to the OT are thought to be proof positive of perspicuity, yet the accompanying variables of Church and Tradition (also thoroughly biblical) are ignored as of no import or consequence. Thus the view which purports to be so “biblical” ironically becomes radically unbiblical in its extreme selectivity and arbitrariness as to which biblical passages it will recognize and which it will blithely ignore.

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Similarly, the apostles and other leaders of the newly founded Church used the narratives, prophecies and wisdom literature of the Old Testament to convict both Jews and Gentiles of eternal truth. They expected their readers and listeners to understand not just the mere statements but also their spiritual significance. Spiritual understanding is a gift from God to all who are redeemed, a gift that is expected to grow to completeness, even to the point of fathoming the treasures of wisdom and knowledge that are in Christ. Believers who remain at the elementary level are rebuked. The apostles were operating on the principles of Perspicuity: all those who truly belong to God are expected to grow in their understanding of what is revealed in Scripture because of the work of God’s Spirit within. Unbelievers, on the other hand, are limited in their understanding because their hearts are not prepared to receive spiritual wisdom.

None of this proves perspicuity. This is a collection of truths with which Catholics wholeheartedly agree, and half-truths which omit aspects of the Church and Tradition which cannot be so easily dismissed, if one wishes to maintain a truly biblical worldview, taking into account all of Holy Scripture, not just verses which appear on the surface to support perspicuity. Protestants – try as they may – simply cannot rationalize away the fact that both Tradition and a visible, institutional, apostolic, catholic (universal) Church are present and non-optional in the New Testament.
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The Post-Apostolic Period

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When the first post-apostolic authors cited Scripture, they were still referring primarily to the Septuagint version of the Hebrew Bible. Copies of the gospels and epistles circulated among the churches and were considered authoritative as Scripture if genuinely apostolic, but no one had yet gathered these documents into a cohesive collection. The writings of this period were aimed principally at combating false doctrine, especially Gnosticism, that was threatening the purity of the faith as handed down by the apostles. Although a complete doctrine of the Perspicuity of Scripture was not formulated until centuries later, we can still determine what the early writers believed about Perspicuity by observing the way they used Scripture in their fight against the aberrant beliefs that arose under the name of Christianity.

I shall maintain below again and again that late-arriving, novel Protestant views are being superimposed back upon the Fathers. The Protestant bias and great desire to claim the Fathers for themselves — to find some modicum of historical support for late Protestant inventions — has made it difficult for objective historical analysis to take place. We see this quite frequently in anti-Catholic polemicists such as William Webster, Eric Svendsen, and James White. They have been corrected by Catholic apologists time and again, to no avail. I have myself debated both Webster and White via mail or on my website, and neither offers the slightest counter-reply.
I shall begin my historical analysis of the Fathers and their view of Scripture and Tradition (and also that of Catholicism) with some general observations by six Protestant scholars:

How do we know that what the church says is true? The Roman Catholic answer to this question is the clearest answer that has ever been formulated . . .

The ‘Roman Catholic consequences’ begin to emerge with the assertion that the Church, through its bishops, is the guardian of tradition. The task of the church is to see that the gospel is handed down without being corrupted. Since not all the nuances of the faith are explicitly developed in the Bible, it is the contribution of tradition to take what is only implicit in Scripture, and make it explicit in the church. Thus tradition is creative and dynamic, and the church sees to it that tradition neither contradicts itself nor becomes inconsistent with the Biblical witness. This means that Scripture and tradition are two sources of truth and must not be separated. If they are, so the view maintains, disaster follows. The Reformers asserted that tradition had distorted the Biblical witness . . .Roman Catholics believe, more fervently than Protestants imagine, that Scripture and tradition are complementary rather than antithetical sources of truth. (Robert McAfee Brown, The Spirit of Protestantism, Oxford: Oxford Univ. Press, 1961, 172-173, 214)

A Bible-only mentality virtually equates spiritual reality with the text of Scripture itself, whereas the Scripture is a pointer to or a witness to that reality . . . There is a difference between being biblical and biblicistic (i.e., employing the Bible-only mentality). There is a difference between honoring ‘sola scriptura’ and bibliolatry (the excess veneration of Scripture). . . . On more than one occasion it has been pointed out that the Bible-only view of Scripture is very much like the Muslim view of Scripture . . . Muslims believe that the earthly Qu’ran is a perfect copy of an actual Qu’ran in Paradise . . . The Christian view of Scripture is that there is a human and historical dimension to Scripture . . . Scripture is not the totality of all God has said and done in this world. Scripture is that part of revelation and history specially chosen for the life of the people of God through centuries. ‘Sola scriptura’ means that the canon of Scripture is the final authority in the church; it does not claim to be the record of all God has said and done . . .   Patient research in the matter of tradition has brought to the surface the good side of the concept. Paul himself uses the language of tradition in a good sense (1 Cor. 11:23, 15:3). Both Roman Catholic and Protestant scholars have been coming closer and closer in a newer and better notion of tradition on both sides. For example, they agree that much of the revelation given in the period of time contained in the Book of Genesis must have been carried on as tradition . . . In the Christian period the bridge between Christ and the written documents of the New Testament was certainly tradition.   The ‘sola scriptura’ of the Reformers did not mean a total rejection of tradition. It meant that only Scripture had the final word on a subject . . . If we reject church tradition we have no idea what the New Testament is attempting to communicate. There is no question that the great majority of American evangelicals are not happy to have such a large weight given to tradition. Even so . . . might we not be heirs of tradition in such a manner that we are not aware of it? However we vote on this issue, it remains true that scholars no longer can talk about Scripture and totally ignore tradition . . . If a Christian could not have his own Scripture until the time of printing and its translation into modern languages, then the kind of Christianity the Bible-only mentality accepts could not have existed until the sixteenth century . . . If copies of the Holy Scripture were rare because of the expensive cost of reproduction by hand-copying then there must have been other valid sources through which the laymen could know the contents of the Christian faith. Such may be: the preaching of the bishop in the early church . . . ; the sacraments and the liturgy which used biblical themes, biblical personalities, and quotations from Scripture so that solid biblical truth could be learned indirectly . . . ; church architecture, decorations within a church, and other forms of Christian art which reflected biblical themes and materials.  This is not an exhaustive list but it does show how the millions of Christians . . . could have had a substantial understanding of the Christian faith prior to the invention of printing. And if one has such a perspective on the whole history of the church he need not be caught in the logical box to which the Bible-only mentality leads . . . so narrow that it becomes self-defeating. (Bernard Ramm, in Rogers, Jack B., editor, Biblical Authority, Waco, Texas: Word Books, 1977, “Is ‘Scripture Alone’ the Essence of Christianity?’, 116-17, 119, 121-122)

The ‘sola scriptura’ principle does not exclude a respectful listening to the wisdom of the past. For we stand in a community of faith and cannot leap over two thousand years of Christian history in disregard of the prodigious labors already done . . . Biblicism is an antitraditional preoccupation with the Bible. It limits its interests to the Bible alone and does not seek nor accept the guidance and correction which the history of exegesis affords. There is something audacious about such a leap from the twentieth century back into the first century without even a glance at the ways in which Scripture has hitherto been understood. Indeed, in such a case there is the real danger that the interpreter will bring the Bible under his own control. Every explicit denial of tradition involves a hidden commitment to a personal brand of tradition. (Clark Pinnock, Biblical Revelation, Chicago: Moody Press, 1971, 118-119)

As regards the pre-Augustinian Church, there is in our time a striking convergence of scholarly opinion that Scripture and Tradition are for the early Church in no sense mutually exclusive: kerygma, Scripture and Tradition coincide entirely. The Church preaches the kerygma which is to be found in toto in written form in the canonical books.

The Tradition is not understood as an addition to the kerygma contained in Scripture but as the handing down of that same kerygma in living form: in other words everything is to be found in Scripture and at the same time everything is in the living Tradition. It is in the living, visible Body of Christ, inspired and vivified by the operation of the Holy Spirit, that Scripture and Tradition coinhere . . . Both Scripture and Tradition issue from the same source: the Word of God, Revelation . . . Only within the Church can this kerygma be handed down undefiled . . . (Heiko Oberman, The Harvest of Medieval Theology, Grand Rapids, Michigan: Eerdmans, revised 1967 edition, 366-367)

Clearly it is an anachronism to superimpose upon the discussions of the second and third centuries categories derived from the controversies over the relation of Scripture and tradition in the 16th century, for ‘in the ante-Nicene Church . . . there was no notion of sola Scriptura, but neither was there a doctrine of traditio sola.’. . . (1)

The apostolic tradition was a public tradition . . . So palpable was this apostolic tradition that even if the apostles had not left behind the Scriptures to serve as normative evidence of their doctrine, the church would still be in a position to follow ‘the structure of the tradition which they handed on to those to whom they committed the churches (2).’ This was, in fact, what the church was doing in those barbarian territories where believers did not have access to the written deposit, but still carefully guarded the ancient tradition of the apostles, summarized in the creed . . . The term ‘rule of faith’ or ‘rule of truth’ . . . seems sometimes to have meant the ‘tradition,’ sometimes the Scriptures, sometimes the message of the gospel . . . In the . . . Reformation . . . the supporters of the sole authority of Scripture . . . overlooked the function of tradition in securing what they regarded as the correct exegesis of Scripture against heretical alternatives. (Jaroslav Pelikan, The Christian Tradition: A History of the Development of Doctrine: Vol. 1 of 5: The Emergence of the Catholic Tradition (100-600), Chicago: Univ. of Chicago Press, 1971, 115-17, 119; citations: 1. In Cushman, Robert E. and Egil Grislis, editors, The Heritage of Christian Thought: Essays in Honor of Robert Lowry Calhoun, New York: 1965, quote from Albert Outler, “The Sense of Tradition in the Ante-Nicene Church,” 29. 2. St. Irenaeus, Against Heresies, 3:4:1)

It should be unnecessary to accumulate further evidence. Throughout the whole period Scripture and tradition ranked as complementary authorities, media different in form but coincident in content. To inquire which counted as superior or more ultimate is to pose the question in misleading terms. If Scripture was abundantly sufficient in principle, tradition was recognized as the surest clue to its interpretation, for in tradition the Church retained, as a legacy from the apostles which was embedded in all the organs of her institutional life, an unerring grasp of the real purport and meaning of the revelation to which Scripture and tradition alike bore witness. (J. N. D. Kelly, Early Christian Doctrines, San Francisco: Harper and Row, 1978, 47-48)

Catholic apologist Joe Gallegos expands upon these comments, and offers the Catholic outlook on the patristic perspective of these matters:
[E]ven though the Catholic Church and the early Fathers admit a material sufficiency of the Bible it maintains that Tradition, Church and Scripture are inseparable…and that the one cannot understand the meaning of the Sacred Scripture without Tradition and Church! That is why the early Fathers can admit a sufficiency of the Bible and the existence of unwritten traditions at the same time….In sum, the Fathers admitted a material sufficiency of the Bible but no less affirmed its formal ‘insufficiency’! All things can be found within the pages of Holy Writ (implicitly or explicitly) but for a proper and authentic understanding of Scripture something else is required–that is, Tradition and Church.
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Vincent of Lerins make the same point. We read in his Commonitories:
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Here perhaps, someone may ask: Since the canon of the Scripture is complete and more than sufficient in itself, why is it necessary to add to it the authority of ecclesiastical interpretation? As a matter of fact, [we must answer] Holy Scripture, because of its depth, is not universally accepted in one and the same sense. The same text is interpreted different by different people, so that one may almost gain the impression that it can yield as many different meanings as there are men. Novatian, for example, expounds a passage in one way; Sabellius, in another; Donatus, in another. Arius, and Eunomius, and Macedonius read it differently; so do Photinus, Apollinaris, and Priscillian; in another way, Jovian, Pelagius, and Caelestius; finally still another way, Nestorius. Thus, becuase of the great distortions caused by various errors, it is, indeed, necessary that the trend of the interpretation of the prophetic and apostolic writings be directed in accordance with the rule of the ecclesiastical and Catholic meaning. (Comm 2)
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. . . The point of controversy in these set of replies is this: did the Fathers affirm the Catholic rule of faith consisting of Scripture, Tradition and Church or did they affirm the Protestant rule of faith (Sola Scriptura) which interprets Scripture via private exegesis?
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. . . the Catholic Church affirms and admits the ‘material’ sufficiency (apart from the canonical issues of the Bible) of both the Scriptures itself and Tradition itself….both have the same Divine origin and but differ in modes only…. That is why the Catholic Church will NOT base a doctrine (apart from canon of the Bible) only on tradition alone or on Scripture alone–the belief must find a touchstone in both! For example, in Ott’s “Fundamentals of Catholic Dogma” you will find Ott religiously appealing to BOTH Scripture and Tradition. All doctrines of the Catholic faith are found explicitly or implicitly in the pages of Holy Writ…the same goes for Tradition. Tradition has some advantages (there are others): 1) it permits fullness, which the written text would have narrowed down to the limits of clear exposition and 2) it is by it’s nature a community phenomenon — whereas the text could be read by an individual by him or herself, tradition by it’s very nature fufills the communal aspects of Church. Scripture too has some advantages(there are others): 1) has the dignity which always and everywhere has gained for itself, 2) contain the actual words of Our Lord and Savior, and 3) It is fixed under one cover. In sum, Tradition allows the Church to preserve God’s saving Word in it’s fullness while Scripture ensures the preservation of it’s purity! (From the web page St. Athanasius, the Scriptures, Tradition, and the Church (Joe Gallegos vs. James White), an excellent debate highly-related to the present one. See also Joe Gallegos’ page Material Sufficiency and Sola Scriptura in the Fathers (Contra William Webster) )
For the sake of space, I cannot cite every quote from the Fathers which Carmen presents (nor those patristic opinions or quotes which present no particular difficulty for the Catholic position). Rather, I will let her summarize her conclusions about what particular Fathers taught, and then present countering citations and evidences. I again urge readers to consult Carmen’s original paper in order to read her arguments in their full context.
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Many Fathers are passed over which could easily be brought forth as fruitful witnesses for the Catholic viewpoint of the Fathers and Scripture/Tradition. The argument, remember, was that this view was that of the early Church, and that Protestants merely re-introduced it. I find the evidence presented as quite weak and unconvincing (there would be hundreds of patristic proof texts if Protestants are right about this), whereas the counter evidence which could easily be presented is overwhelming and irrefutable.

St. Clement of Rome (fl. c. 96)
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Clement, bishop of Rome in the last decade of the first century, frequently cites the Old Testament in his letter to the Corinthians about 96 AD. He does not explain the cited passage but assumes that his readers will understand the plain sense of the words and agree with his use of it . . . Scripture is plain enough to be understood and applied by all.

Yet St. Clement also espouses tradition (he doesn’t seem to speak the “biblical” evangelical lingo):
Let us conform to the glorious and holy rule of our tradition. (Letter to Corinthians 7:2)
Furthermore, Clement teaches apostolic succession in 42:1-4 and 44:1-4, and held that bishops were a permanent office and continuation of the apostolic ministry. He himself exercised a robust authority, which Catholics regard as papal (Clement being a bishop of Rome). He speaks to the church at Corinth as if it was in subjection to himself and the Church of Rome:
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    But if certain people should disobey what has been said by him through us, let them understand that they will entangle themselves in no small sin and danger. (59:1)
Lastly, Clement cites as “Scripture” in 23:3-4 a source which is not in the Bible as later determined. It is also cited in 2 Clement 11:2-3 (not considered to have been written by Clement, however). Anglican scholar J. B. Lightfoot speculated that the citation was from the lost book of Eldad and Modat mentioned in the Shepherd of Hermas (Vis. 2.3.4).

St. Irenaeus (c. 130 – c. 202) 

. . . Irenaeus acknowledges that “simple-minded” people can be led astray by such twisting of Scripture, but only because these persons do not know enough of Scripture to keep them from being deceived. When the various passages are put back in their right order and context, the sense is clear to the one who has accepted the truth “received at baptism.”

In like manner he also who retains unchangeable — in his heart the rule of the truth which he received by means of baptism, will doubtless recognise the names, the expressions, and the parables taken from the Scriptures, but will by no means acknowledge the blasphemous use which these men make of them. But when he has restored every one of the expressions quoted to its proper position, and has fitted it to the body of the truth, he will lay bare, and prove to be without any foundation, the figment of these heretics.

. . . Thus Irenaeus sets forth and practices another principle of the doctrine of Perspicuity of Scripture that was to be stated more formally in later times: What is obscure in one portion of Scripture is made clear in another portion. The explanations of the more obscure portions are within Scripture itself. The believer needs to study and meditate upon the entire Word in order to find the sense that God intended.

Irenaeus interprets types, symbols and parables with Christ as the center of his hermeneutic. For him, the true interpretation of the Scriptures lies with the Church, because the Church has inherited its doctrines from the apostles of Christ. In the context of Against Heresies, the Church stands in contrast to those who have broken away from the mainstream, the Gnostic heretics that have either twisted Scripture or done away with the portions that are not suitable to their doctrine. There is no differentiation made among persons within the Church that would indicate some are qualified to read and interpret Scripture while others should be hindered. All are encouraged to learn, and the amount of understanding will vary with the study and meditation given to the Scripture — as well as the measure of love that a person has for God.

But St. Irenaeus, too, accepts authoritative Tradition and apostolic succession (as Carmen — contrary to her overall argument — admits: “For him, the true interpretation of the Scriptures lies with the Church, because the Church has inherited its doctrines from the apostles of Christ”), in contrast to later Protestant beliefs about Scripture Alone as the rule of faith (a host of other citations could easily be brought forth – see the web pages above):
When, however, they are confuted from the Scriptures, they turn round and accuse these same Scriptures, as if they were not correct, nor of authority, and [assert] that they are ambiguous, and that the truth cannot be extracted from them by those who are ignorant of tradition . . . It comes to this, therefore, that these men do now consent neither to Scripture or tradition. (Against Heresies 3, 2:1)
Suppose there arise a dispute relative to some important question among us, should we not have recourse to the most ancient Churches with which the apostles held constant intercourse, and learn from them what is certain and clear in regard to the present question? For how should it be if the apostles themselves had not left us writings? Would it not be necessary, [in that case,] to follow the course of the tradition which they handed down to those to whom they did commit the Churches? (Against Heresies 3, 4:1)
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But, again, when we refer them to that tradition which originates from the apostles, [and] which is preserved by means of the successions of presbyters in the Churches, they object to tradition, saying they themselves are wiser. (Against Heresies 3, 2:2)

Protestant scholar Ellen Flessman-van Leer, in her Tradition and Scripture in the Early Church (Van Gorcum, 1953, pp. 139 and 188), writes:
For Irenaeus, on the other hand, tradition and scripture are both quite unproblematic. They stand independently side by side, both absolutely authoritative, both unconditionally true, trustworthy, and convincing.
Irenaeus and Tertullian point to the church tradition as the authoritative locus of the unadulterated teaching of the apostles, they cannot longer appeal to the immediate memory, as could the earliest writers. Instead they lay stress on the affirmation that this teaching has been transmitted faithfully from generation to generation. One could say that in their thinking, apostolic succession occupies the same place that is held by the living memory in the Apostolic Fathers.
St. Irenaeus did not accept the New Testament we have today. He did not consider 2 Peter, Jude or Hebrews scriptural, but did include the Shepherd of Hermas in the canon.
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The School of Alexandria and Allegorical Interpretation

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Next, it is argued that the exegetical School of Alexandria, and Fathers such as Clement of Alexandria and Origen, following Philo and Platonic thought, introduced foreign Greek philosophies into biblical commentary and hermeneutics, thus poisoning the well for perspicuity and popular understanding of the “clear” Scripture for subsequent generations throughout the Middle Ages until Luther and Calvin restored the true belief once again:

Origen further developed what was begun by Clement. Origen is especially significant because his allegorical methods established the hermeneutical methodology for the Church throughout the Middle Ages, and to some extent even to the present. Origen was also from Alexandria and a controversial figure even in his own time. He combined his Platonic philosophy with Christianity, particularly in the interpretation of Scripture, applying a body-soul-spirit theory to the Word of God. Many of the narratives were impossible happenings in his view. If Scripture really was divine literature, such narratives had to have a spiritual or mystical meaning. He did not completely do away with the literal, but nevertheless put his emphasis upon the spiritual.

. . . However, which narratives were to be understood literally, and which ones only spiritually? The logical outcome of this method would be the giving over to the trained leadership of the Church the responsibility to hear, read and study the Scriptures. Origen’s interpretative methods obscured much of Scripture and removed the possibility of profitable study for the average “untrained” Christian who would not be able to discern “literal narrative” from “spiritual narrative.”

In the online Catholic Encyclopedia article on Biblical Exegesis (by A. J. Maas), a summary of the Fathers’ approach to the literal and allegorical senses of Scripture, particularly that of Origen, who was an exception to the rule, is laid out:
The Fathers of the Church were not blind to the fact that the literal sense in some Scripture passages appears to imply great incongruities, not to say insuperable difficulties. On the other hand, they regarded the language of the Bible as truly human language, and therefore always endowed with a literal sense, whether proper or figurative. Moreover, St. Jerome (in Is., xiii, 19), St. Augustine (De tent. Abrah. serm. ii, 7), St. Gregory (Moral., i, 37) agree with St. Thomas (Quodl., vii, Q. vi, a. 14) in his conviction that the typical sense is always based on the literal and springs from it. Hence if these Fathers had denied the existence of a literal sense in any passage of Scripture, they would have left the passage meaningless. Where the patristic writers appear to reject the literal sense, they really exclude only the proper sense, leaving the figurative.
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Origen (De princ., IV, xi) may be regarded as the only exception to this rule; since he considers some of the Mosaic laws as either absurd or impossible to keep, he denies that they must be taken in their literal sense. But even in his case, attempts have been made to give to his words a more acceptable meaning (cf. Vincenzi, “In S. Gregorii Nysseni et Origenis scripta et doctrinam nova recensio”, Rome, 1864, vol. II, cc. xxv-xxix). The great Alexandrian Doctor distinguishes between the body, the soul, and the spirit of Scripture. His defendants believe that he understands by these three elements its proper, its figurative, and its typical sense respectively. He may, therefore, with impunity deny the existence of any bodily sense in a passage of Scripture without injury to its literal sense. But it is more generally admitted that Origen went astray on this point, because he followed Philo’s opinion too faithfully.   . . . It was Origen, too, who fully developed the hermeneutical principles which distinguish the Alexandrian School, though they are not applied in their entirety by any other Father.
Note that Origen’s views were not accepted as exegetical and hermeneutical norms for “official” Catholic interpretation. Carmen’s opinion above, therefore, is incorrect, and overly-broad. The historical truth about medieval and present-day Catholic exegesis is much more nuanced and complex. Origen spoke for himself in this instance, and he was wrong.
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The same article elaborates upon the history and biblical basis for the “mystical” or “spiritual” or “typical” (typological) sense of Scripture (bolded emphasis added):
The typical sense has its name from the fact that it is based on the figurative or typical relation of Biblical persons, or objects, or events, to a new truth. This latter is called the antitype, while its Biblical correspondent is named the type. The typical sense is also called the spiritual, or mystical, sense: mystical, because of its more recondite nature; spiritual, because it is related to the literal, as the spirit is related to the body. What we call type is called shadow, allegory, parable, by St. Paul (cf. Rom., v, 14; I Cor., x, 6; Heb., viii, 5; Gal, iv, 24; Heb., ix, 9); once he refers to it as antitype (Heb., ix, 24), though St. Peter applies this term to the truth signified (I Pet., iii, 21) . . .
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Scripture and tradition agree in their testimony for the occurrence of the typical sense in certain passages of the Old Testament. Among the Scriptural texts which establish the typical sense, we may appeal to Col., ii, 16-17; Heb., viii, 5; ix, 8-9; Rom., v, 14; Gal., iv, 24; Matt., ii, 15 (cf. Os., xi, 1); Heb., i, 5 (cf. II K., vii, 14). The testimony of tradition concerning this subject may be gathered from Barnabas (Ep., 7, 8, 9, 12, etc.), St. Clement of Rome (I Cor., xii), St. Justin, Dial. c. Tryph., civ, 42), St. Irenaeus (Adv. haer., IV, xxv, 3; II, xxiv, 2 sqq.; IV, xxvi, 2), Tertullian (Adv. Marc., V, vii); St. Jerome (Ep. liii, ad Paulin., 8), St. Thomas (I, Q. i, a. 10), and a number of other patristic writers and Scholastic theologians. That the Jews agree with the Christian writers on this point, may be inferred from Josephus (Antiq., XVII, iii, 4; Pro m. Antiq., n. 4; III, vi, 4, 77; De bello Jud., V, vi, 4), the Talmud (Berachot, c. v, ad fin.; Quiddus, fol. 41, col. 1), and the writings of Philo (de Abraham; de migrat. Abraham; de vita contempl.), though this latter writer goes to excess in the allegorical interpretation . . .
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All Catholic interpreters readily grant that in some passages of the Old Testament we have a typical sense besides the literal; but this does not appear to be granted with regard to the New Testament, at least not subsequently to the death of Jesus Christ. Distinguishing between the New Testament as it signifies a collection of books, and the New Testament as it denotes the Christian economy, they grant that there are types in the New-Testament books, but only as far as they refer to the pre-Christian economy. For the New Testament has brought us the reality in place of the figure, light in place of darkness, truth in place of shadow (cf. Patrizi, “De interpretatione Scripturarum Sacrarum”, p. 199, Rome, 1844). On the other hand, it is urged that the New Testament is the figure of glory, as the Old Testament was the figure of the New (St. Thom., Summa, I, Q. i, a. 10).
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Again, in Scripture the literal sense applies to what precedes, the typical to what follows. Now, even in the New Testament Christ and His Body precedes the Church and its members; hence, what is said literally of Christ or His Body, may be interpreted allegorically of the Church, the mystical body of Christ, tropologically of the virtuous acts of the Church’s members, anagogically of their future glory (St. Thom., Quodl., VII, a. 15, ad 5um). Similar views are expressed by St. Ambrose (in Ps. xxx, n. 25), St. Chrysostom (in Matt., hom. lxvi), St. Augustine (in Joh., ix), St. Gregory the Great (Hom. ii, in evang. Luc., xviii), St. John Damascene (De fide orth., iv, 13); besides, the bark of Peter is usually regarded as a type of the Church, the destruction of Jerusalem as a type of the final catastrophe.  . . .

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It may be said in general that these earliest Christian writers admitted both the literal and the allegorical sense of Scripture. The latter sense appears to have been favoured by St. Clement of RomeBarnabasSt. JustinSt. Irenaeus, while the literal seems to prevail in the writings of St. Hippolytus, Tertullian, the Clementine Recognitions, and among the Gnostics.   . . . Among the eminent writers of the Alexandrian School must be classed Julius Africanus (c. 215), St. Dionysius the Great (d. 265), St. Gregory Thaumaturgus (d. 270), Eusebius of Caesarea (d. 340), St. Athanasius (d. 373), Didymus of Alexandria (d. 397), St. Epiphanius (d. 403), St. Cyril of Alexandria (d. 444), and finally also the celebrated Cappadocian Fathers, St. Basil the Great (d. 379), St. Gregory Nazianzen (d. 389), and St. Gregory of Nyssa (d. 394). The last three, however, have many points in common with the School of Antioch.   . . .

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(c) The Latin Fathers. The Latin Fathers, too, admitted a twofold sense of Scripture, insisting variously now on the one, now on the other. We can only enumerate their names: Tertullian (b. 160), St. Cyprian (d. 258), St. Victorinus (d. 297), St. Hilary (d. 367), Marius Victorinus (d. 370), St. Ambrose (d. 397), Rufinus (d. 410), St. Jerome (d. 420), St. Augustine (d. 430), Primasius (d. 550), Cassiodorus (d. 562), St. Gregory the Great (d. 604). St. Hilary, Marius Victorinus, and St. Ambrose depend, to a certain extent, on Origen and the Alexandrian School; St. Jerome and St. Augustine are the two great lights of the Latin Church on whom depend most of the Latin writers of the Middle Ages.   . . .

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(ii) Second Period of Exegesis, A.D. 604-1546

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We consider the following nine centuries as one period of exegesis, not on account of their uniform productiveness or barrenness in the field of Biblical study, nor on account of their uniform tendency of developing any particular branch of exegesis, but rather on account of their characteristic dependence on the work of the Fathers. Whether they synopsized or amplified, whether they analysed or derived new conclusions from old premises, they always started from the patristic results as their basis of operation.

It is obvious, then, that the consensus amongst the Fathers (and the medievals following them) is the belief that Scripture can be properly interpreted in a typological, allegorical, figurative, and “mystical” sense, while not denying the fundamental nature of the literal, “historical” sense. As usual, the truth is not “either/or” (as is so often observed in the Protestant perspective). It is “both/and.”
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In any event, according to Carmen’s thesis, the early Church (in the main?) accepted some proto-Protestant version of perspicuity. She strongly implies (if she doesn’t assert it outright) that allegorical interpretation mitigates against this (since it obscures Scripture and its “plain” meaning), and is therefore a corruption of the mainstream patristic hermeneutical and exegetical view.
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The above summary (if it is accepted at all as accurate) demolishes this contention, in my opinion, for it reveals that the Fathers en masse accepted multiple forms of interpretation all along (and that the medieval exegetes followed their method: they didn’t deviate from them). Thus, as is so often the case, Protestants must improperly read back their peculiar views into the Fathers.
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Luther and Calvin, then, are again shown to be revolutionaries in this regard, introducing novelties, not reformers who merely brought back (“resurrected”) what was present and normative in the early Church (as Carmen contends). Protestants cannot prove with extensive documentation that the Fathers – taken as a whole – uphold their notions of sola Scriptura, perspicuity, an invisible church, literal interpretation to the exclusion of other methods, or a denial of apostolic succession.
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With all due respect, such analysis cannot survive even the first in-depth Catholic counter-reply, because history in this instance (as well as Scripture, I believe) is again on the Catholic side. Therefore, Protestant polemicists are reduced to producing largely-unsubstantiated and highly selective summaries of alleged Church history which lack sufficient documentation, and ignore a host of complicating factors. A confident, true historical thesis can easily incorporate or take into account (rather than obscure or ignore) all the known historical facts within itself, as the Catholic viewpoint does.

St. Augustine (354-430)
Augustine of Hippo was perhaps the greatest expounder of Christian doctrine in the early centuries of Christianity. Both Catholics and Protestants have cited his works in confirmation of their own views . . . True obscurities do exist, but God is the one who put them into Scripture. His purpose was to hold pride in check and increase the respect Christians would give to Scripture.

Some of the expressions are so obscure as to shroud the meaning in the thickest darkness. And I do not doubt that all this was divinely arranged for the purpose of subduing pride by toil, and of preventing a feeling of satiety in the intellect, which generally holds in small esteem what is discovered without difficulty.

Yet there is no obscurity in Scripture that by necessity remains unfathomable. The darkness of obscurity can be penetrated by studying the rest of Scripture. Augustine sets forth a principle that is resurrected during the Reformation: Scripture interprets Scripture.

Accordingly the Holy Spirit has, with admirable wisdom and care for our welfare, so arranged the Holy Scriptures as by the plainer passages to satisfy our hunger, and by the more obscure to stimulate our appetite. For almost nothing is dug out of those obscure passages which may not be found set forth in the plainest language elsewhere.

The Scriptures plainly teach that which is necessary for faith and salvation, as well as teaching how the Christian should live. These are the things that should be studied first and committed to memory. Only after the believer is firmly grounded in these necessary doctrines should he go on to delve into the more obscure teachings of Scripture.

For among the things that are plainly laid down in Scripture are to be found all matters that concern faith and the manner of life. After this, when we have made ourselves to a certain extent familiar with the language of Scripture, we may proceed to open up and investigate the obscure passages, and in doing so draw examples from the plainer expressions to throw light upon the more obscure, and use the evidence of passages about which there is no doubt to remove all hesitation in regard to the doubtful passages.

Ignorance accounts for much of what is labeled obscure. Thorough study of the Scriptures as well as knowledge from other fields of learning should clear up most of these. When neither context nor general knowledge will clear up an obscure passage, one may apply reason – but, Augustine says,

This is a dangerous practice. For it is far safer to walk by the light of Holy Scripture; so that when we wish to examine the passages that are obscured by metaphorical expressions, we may either obtain a meaning about which there is no controversy, or if a controversy arises, may settle it by the application of testimonies sought out in every portion of the same Scripture.

The solution to the unsolvable obscure passages may be to interpret the passage figuratively. Here Augustine is not talking about figurative language but allegorical interpretation. He only uses the word allegory twice in On Christian Doctrine, and both times it refers to a type of speech within Scripture itself, not a type of interpretation, but he sometimes uses the word “figurative” in the same way that other Church Fathers use the word “allegorical.”
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Augustine remained an allegorist but he did not take allegory as far as Clement of Alexandria. He retained a deep respect for the literal interpretation and the perspicuity of Scripture, insisting on several points which were later included in the doctrine of Perspicuity during the Reformation. He also set up several controls over the use of allegory. 

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Here, the Protestant “either/or” mentality is fully apparent. Neither the centrality or popular “accessibility” of Scripture nor a respect for the literal hermeneutical sense rules out Tradition and Church, apostolic succession, or four-fold interpretation of Scripture. St. Augustine is not a Protestant!

If one cites him — as above — only when he agrees or appears to agree with one or more Protestant distinctives, but neglects to take into account numerous other statements of his which are entirely “Catholic,” then it is an improperly selective and ultimately intellectually dishonest presentation, and does disservice both to St. Augustine and the Protestant cause – supposedly so rooted in the early Church and the great Augustine himself. In this vein, Protestant scholar Heiko Oberman observes:

    Augustine . . . reflects the early Church principle of the coinherence of Scripture and Tradition. While repeatedly asserting the ultimate authority of Scripture, Augustine does not oppose this at all to the authority of the Church Catholic . . . The Church has a practical priority . . .
    • But there is another aspect of Augustine’s thought . . . we find mention of an authoritative extrascriptural oral tradition. While on the one hand the Church ‘moves’ the faithful to discover the authority of Scripture, Scripture on the other hand refers the faithful back to the authority of the Church with regard to a series of issues with which the Apostles did not deal in writing. Augustine refers here to the baptism of heretics . . . (

The Harvest of Medieval Theology,

     Grand Rapids, Michigan: Eerdmans, revised edition, 1967, 370-371)
Many other citations of St. Augustine with regard to this subject could be brought forth. Here are a few:
[T]he custom [of not rebaptizing converts] . . . may be supposed to have had its origin in Apostolic Tradition, just as there are many things which are observed by the whole Church, and therefore are fairly held to have been enjoined by the Apostles, which yet are not mentioned in their writings. (On Baptism, Against the Donatists 5:23[31] [A.D. 400] )
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But the admonition that he [Cyprian] gives us, ‘that we should go back to the fountain, that is, to Apostolic Tradition, and thence turn the channel of truth to our times,’ is most excellent, and should be followed without hesitation. (Ibid., 5:26[37] )
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But in regard to those observances which we carefully attend and which the whole world keeps, and which derive not from Scripture but from Tradition, we are given to understand that they are recommended and ordained to be kept, either by the Apostles themselves or by plenary [ecumenical] councils, the authority of which is quite vital in the Church. (Letter to Januarius [A.D. 400])
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For in the Catholic Church, not to speak of the purest wisdom, to the knowledge of which a few spiritual men attain in this life, so as to know it, in the scantiest measure, indeed, because they are but men, still without any uncertainty…The consent of peoples and nations keep me in Church, so does her authority, inaugurated by miracles, nourished by hope, enlarged by love, established by age. The SUCCESSION of priests keeps me, beginning from the very seat of the APOSTLE PETER, to whom the Lord, after his resurrection, gave it in charge to feed his sheep, down to the present EPISCOPATE…The epistle begins thus: — ‘Manicheus, an apostle of Jesus Christ, by the providence of God the Father. These are the wholesome words from the perennial and living fountain.’ Now, if you please, patiently give heed to my inquiry. I do not believe Manichues to be an apostle of Christ. Do not, I beg you, be enraged and begin to curse. For you know that it is my rule to believe none of your statements without consideration. Therefore I ask, who is this Manicheus? You will reply, An Apostle of Christ. I do not believe it. Now you are at a loss what to say or do; for you promised to give knowledge of truth, and here you are forcing me to believe what I have no knowledge of. Perhaps you will read the gospel to me, and will attempt to find there a testimony to Manicheus. But should you meet with a person not yet believing in the gospel, how would you reply to him were he to say, I do not believe? For MY PART, I should NOT BELIEVE the gospel except moved by the authority of the Catholic Church. So when those on whose authority I have consented to believe in the gospel tell me not to believe in Manicheus, how can I BUT CONSENT? (C. Epis Mani 5,6)
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Wherever this tradition comes from, we must believe that the Church has not believed in vain, even though the express authority of the canonical scriptures is not brought forward for it. (Letter 164 to Evodius of Uzalis)
To be sure, although on this matter, we cannot quote a clear example taken from the canonical Scriptures, at any rate, on this question, we are following the true thought of Scriptures when we observe what has appeared good to the universal Church which the authority of these same Scriptures recommends to you. (C. Cresconius I: 33)
It is obvious; the faith allows it; the Catholic Church approves; it is true. (Sermon 117:6)
The authority of our Scriptures, strengthened by the consent of so may nations, and confirmed by the succession of the Apostles, bishops and councils, is against you. (C. Faustus 8:5)
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No sensible person will go contrary to reason, no Christian will contradict the Scriptures, no lover of peace will go against the CHURCH. (Trinitas 4, 6, 10)

St. Jerome (c. 345-419)
 
Jerome was a contemporary of Augustine who initially shared the views of the Alexandrian exegetes but later came to be more in line with the Antiochene school. He affirmed a “deeper meaning” to Scripture, but contended that this spiritual significance must be rooted in the literal.
As was the mainstream Catholic position all along, as shown above.

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He considered Origen a heretic but also thought he had done a credible job of explaining some obscure passages of Scripture.

Jerome played an involuntary role in Scripture’s becoming concealed from the Christian population in ensuing centuries. He translated the Bible into Latin because Greek was no longer a lingua franca in Europe. The Vulgate was the result, appropriately named because it was written in the vulgar or common language of the time. Approximately 300-400 years later, though, Latin had gone through enough changes that people of southern and western Europe began to realize that the Classical Latin taught in the schools was “perceptibly a different language, rather than merely a more polished, cultured version of their own.”

In the meantime, the Vulgate became the recognized authoritative translation of the Scriptures for use in the Church of Rome. The sacredness ascribed to the Word of God was extended as well to the language into which it had been translated, i.e., the Latin that had become the official language of the Church. The attitude toward Latin was also affected by tradition. Since “the time of Saints Hilary and Augustine the notion prevailed that the three languages used in the inscription on the Cross [Aramaic, Latin and Greek] were sacred.” The common language continued to change over the centuries, but the language of the Church and the Word of God did not. The God who communicated with mankind to the point of incarnating himself in human flesh became a God who was steeped in mystery, his revelations known only to a select few.

This was not the intention of Jerome.

This fatuous charge that somehow the Catholic Church was against popular reading of Holy Scripture and vernacular translations is one of the most common slanderous charges against the Catholic Church, but also (thankfully) one of the easiest to thoroughly disprove.
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For now, I present a citation from St. Jerome which clearly (perspicuously?) indicates that he did not believe in sola Scriptura:
I will tell you my opinion briefly and without reserve. We ought to remain in that Church which was founded by the Apostles and continues to this day. If ever you hear of any that are called Christians taking their name not from the Lord Jesus Christ, but from some other, for instance, Marcionites, Valentinians, Men of the mountain or the plain, you may be sure that you have there not the Church of Christ, but the synagogue of Antichrist. For the fact that they took their rise after the foundation of the Church is proof that they are those whose coming the Apostle foretold. And let them not flatter themselves if they think they have Scripture authority for their assertions, since the devil himself quoted Scripture, and the essence of the Scriptures is not the letter, but the meaning. Otherwise, if we follow the letter, we too can concoct a new dogma and assert that such persons as wear shoes and have two coats must not be received into the Church. (The Dialogue Against the Luciferians 28)

The Antiochene School of Theology: Not All It’s Cracked Up to Be
The hermeneutical methods of the Alexandrian School, particular those of Origen, prevailed and eventually became the standard of the Church of Rome.
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This is incorrect, as detailed above. Origen’s position was extreme, and the literal sense of scriptural interpretation was always primary, though not excluding other senses. Nor did the Church and Catholic commentators reject the Antiochene approach entirely. More “either/or” inaccuracies and straw men . . .
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Not all theologians in the early Church, however, agreed with this allegorical approach. Those of the Antiochene school dissented from the position that there was a spiritual meaning hidden within the text. In fact, they held that allegorical interpretation destroyed the real message of Scripture. They also distinguished between allegory as used in Scripture itself, and the allegorical interpretation as used by the Alexandrian school. They were unwilling to lose [the historical reality of the biblical revelation] in a world of symbols and shadows.Where the Alexandrines use the word theory as equivalent to allegorical interpretation, the Antiochene exegetes use it for a sense of scripture higher or deeper than the literal or historical meaning, but firmly based on the letter. This understanding does not deny the literal meaning of scripture but is grounded on it, as an image is based on the things represented and points toward it. Both image and thing are comprehensible at the same time. There is no hidden meaning which only a Gnostic can comprehend. John Chrysostom observes that everywhere in scripture there is this law, than when it allegorizes, it also gives the explanation of the allegory.”

Again, this was the mainstream patristic position, not just that of the School of Antioch.

. . . Even as the Alexandrians did not completely dispense with the literal meaning of Scripture, so also the Antiochenes did not dismiss allegory. However, they insisted that any allegorical interpretation must be based on the literal. The Antiochene school’s hermeneutic lost out to that of the Alexandrians. Their methods were not forgotten, however, and were later revived in the 13th century by St. Thomas Aquinas, who greatly admired the work of John Chrysostom and was responsible for restoring the literal meaning to its rightful importance.

I cite once more the online Catholic Encyclopedia article on Biblical Exegesis (by A. J. Maas; bolded emphasis added):

The School of Antioch. The Fathers of Antioch adhered to hermeneutical principles which insist more on the so-called grammatico-historical sense of the Sacred Books than on their moral and allegorical meaning. It is true that Theodore of Mopsuestia urged the literal sense to the detriment of the typical, believing that the New Testament applies some of the prophecies to the Messias only by way of accommodation, and that on account of their allegories the Canticle of Canticles, together with a few other books, should not be admitted into the Canon. But generally speaking, the Fathers of Antioch and Eastern Syria, the latter of whom formed the School of Nisibis or Edessa, steered a course midway between Origen and Theodore, avoiding the excesses of both, and thus laying the foundation of the hermeneutical principles which the Catholic exegete ought to follow. The principal representatives of the School of Antioch are St. John Chrysostom (d. 407); Theodore of Mopsuestia (d. 429), condemned by the Fifth Ecumenical Synod on account of his explanation of Job and the Canticle of Canticles, and in certain respects the forerunner of Nestorius; St. Isidore of Pelusium, in Egypt (d. 434), numbered among the Antiochene commentators on account of his Biblical explanations inserted in about two thousand of his letters; Theodoret, Bishop of Cyrus in Syria (d. 458), known for his Questions on the Octateuch, the Books of Kings and Par., and for his Commentaries on the Psalms, the Cant., the Prophets, and the Epistles of St. Paul. The School of Edessa glories in the names of Aphraates who flourished in the first half of the fourth century, St. Ephraem (d. 373), Cyrillonas, Balaeus, Rabulas, Isaac the Great, etc.

Blessed John Henry Cardinal Newman, in his classic work An Essay on the Development of Christian Doctrine (Part 2, Chapter 7, section 4: “Scripture and its Mystical Interpretation” — emphasis added), penetratingly wrote about the orthodoxy of the mystical sense as the norm within the Christian (Catholic) Church, and the excesses of the Antiochene School of hermeneutics and “hyper-literalism.” I cite him at length, because his analysis is so relevant to the present debate (bolded emphasis added):
Several passages have occurred in the foregoing Chapters, which serve to suggest another principle on which some words are now to be said. Theodore’s exclusive adoption of the literal, and repudiation of the mystical interpretation of Holy Scripture, leads to the consideration of the latter, as one of the characteristic conditions or principles on which the teaching of the Church has ever proceeded. Thus Christianity developed, as we have incidentally seen, into the form, first, of a Catholic, then of a Papal Church.
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Now it was Scripture that was made the rule on which this development proceeded in each case, and Scripture moreover interpreted in a mystical sense; and, {339} whereas at first certain texts were inconsistently confined to the letter, and a Millennium was in consequence expected, the very course of events, as time went on, interpreted the prophecies about the Church more truly, and that first in respect of her prerogative as occupying the orbis terrarum, next in support of the claims of the See of St. Peter. This is but one specimen of a certain law of Christian teaching, which is this, – a reference to Scripture throughout, and especially in its mystical sense [Note 14].1. This is a characteristic which will become more and more evident to us, the more we look for it. The divines of the Church are in every age engaged in regulating themselves by Scripture, appealing to Scripture in proof of their conclusions, and exhorting and teaching in the thoughts and language of Scripture. Scripture may be said to be the medium in which the mind of the Church has energized and developed [Note 15]. When St. Methodius would enforce the doctrine of vows of celibacy, he refers to the book of Numbers; and if St. Irenaeus proclaims the dignity of St. Mary, it is from a comparison of St. Luke’s Gospel with Genesis. And thus St. Cyprian, in his Testimonies, rests the prerogatives of martyrdom, as {340} indeed the whole circle of Christian doctrine, on the declaration of certain texts; and, when in his letter to Antonian he seems to allude to Purgatory, he refers to our Lord’s words about “the prison” and “paying the last farthing.” And if St. Ignatius exhorts to unity, it is from St. Paul; and he quotes St. Luke against the Phantasiasts of his day. We have a first instance of this law in the Epistle of St. Polycarp, and a last in the practical works of St. Alphonso Liguori. St. Cyprian, or St. Ambrose, or St. Bede, or St. Bernard, or St. Carlo, or such popular books as Horstius’s Paradisus Animae, are specimens of a rule which is too obvious to need formal proof. It is exemplified in the theological decisions of St. Athanasius in the fourth century, and of St. Thomas in the thirteenth; in the structure of the Canon Law, and in the Bulls and Letters of Popes. It is instanced in the notion so long prevalent in the Church, which philosophers of this day do not allow us to forget, that all truth, all science, must be derived from the inspired volume. And it is recognized as well as exemplified; recognized as distinctly by writers of the Society of Jesus, as it is copiously exemplified by the Ante-nicene Fathers. . . . “Holy Scripture,” says Cornelius Lapide, “contains the beginnings of all theology: for theology is nothing but the science of conclusions which are drawn from principles certain to faith, and therefore is of all sciences most august as well as certain; but the principles of faith and faith itself doth Scripture contain; whence it evidently follows that Holy Scripture lays down those principles of theology by which the theologian begets of the mind’s reasoning his demonstrations. He, then, who thinks he can tear away Scholastic Science from the work of commenting on Holy Scripture is hoping for offspring without a mother.” [Note 19] Again: “What is the subject-matter of Scripture? Must I say it in a word? Its aim is de omni scibili; it embraces in its bosom all studies, all that can be known: and thus it is a certain university of sciences containing all sciences either ‘formally’ or ’eminently.'” [Note 20]

Nor am I aware that later Post-tridentine writers deny that the whole Catholic faith may be proved from Scripture, though they would certainly maintain that it is not to be found on the surface of it, nor in such sense that it may be gained from Scripture without the aid of Tradition. [Thus Newman confirms that Catholics acknowledge material sufficiency of Scripture] 2.

And this has been the doctrine of all ages of the Church, as is shown by the disinclination of her teachers to confine themselves to the mere literal interpretation of Scripture. Her most subtle and powerful method of proof, whether in ancient or modern times, is the mystical sense, which is so frequently used in doctrinal controversy as on many occasions to supersede any other.

Thus the Council of Trent appeals to the peace-offering spoken of in Malachi {343} in proof of the Eucharistic Sacrifice; to the water and blood issuing from our Lord’s side, and to the mention of “waters” in the Apocalypse, in admonishing on the subject of the mixture of water with the wine in the Oblation. Thus Bellarmine defends Monastic celibacy by our Lord’s words in Matthew xix., and refers to “We went through fire and water;” etc., in the Psalm, as an argument for Purgatory; and these, as is plain, are but specimens of a rule. Now, on turning to primitive controversy, we find this method of interpretation to be the very basis of the proof of the Catholic doctrine of the Holy Trinity. Whether we betake ourselves to the Ante-nicene writers or the Nicene, certain texts will meet us, which do not obviously refer to that doctrine, yet are put forward as palmary proofs of it. Such are, in respect of our Lord’s divinity, “My heart is inditing of a good matter,” or “has burst forth with a good Word;” “The Lord made” or “possessed Me in the beginning of His ways;” “I was with Him, in whom He delighted;” “In Thy Light shall we see Light;” “Who shall declare His generation?” “She is the Breath of the Power of God;” and “His Eternal Power and Godhead.”

On the other hand, the School of Antioch, which adopted the literal interpretation, was, as I have noticed above, the very metropolis of heresy. Not to speak of Lucian, whose history is but imperfectly known, (one of the first masters of this school, and also teacher of Arius and his principal supporters), Diodorus and Theodore of Mopsuestia, who were the most eminent masters of literalism in the succeeding generation, were, as we have seen, the forerunners of Nestorianism. The case had been the same in a still earlier age; — the Jews clung to the literal sense of the Scriptures and hence rejected the Gospel; the Christian Apologists proved its divinity by means of the allegorical. The formal connexion of this mode of interpretation with {344} Christian theology is noticed by Porphyry, who speaks of Origen and others as borrowing it from heathen philosophy, both in explanation of the Old Testament and in defence of their own doctrine.

It may be almost laid down as an historical fact, that the mystical interpretation and orthodoxy will stand or fall together. [Protestant Church historian Jaroslav Pelikan, in his The Emergence of the Catholic Tradition (100-600), p. 61 – cited earlier – quotes the last sentence above, in the course of a treatment of hermeneutics, and notes that “Newman’s generalization is probably an accurate one.”] This is clearly seen, as regards the primitive theology, by a recent writer, in the course of a Dissertation upon St. Ephrem. After observing that Theodore of Heraclea, Eusebius, and Diodorus gave a systematic opposition to the mystical interpretation, which had a sort of sanction from Antiquity and the orthodox Church, he proceeds; “Ephrem is not as sober in his interpretations, nor could it be, since he was a zealous disciple of the orthodox faith. For all those who are most eminent in such sobriety were as far as possible removed from the faith of the Councils”. On the other hand, all who retained the faith of the Church never entirely dispensed with the spiritual sense of the Scriptures. For the Councils watched over the orthodox faith; nor was it safe in those ages, as we learn especially from the instance of Theodore of Mopsuestia, to desert the spiritual for an exclusive cultivation of the literal method. Moreover, the allegorical interpretation, even when the literal sense was not injured, was also preserved; because in those times, when both heretics and Jews in controversy were stubborn in their objections to Christian doctrine, maintaining that the Messiah was yet to come, or denying the abrogation of the Sabbath and ceremonial law, or ridiculing the Christian doctrine of the Trinity, and especially that of Christ’s Divine Nature, under such circumstances ecclesiastical writers found it to their purpose, in answer to such exceptions, violently to refer {345} every part of Scripture by allegory to Christ and His Church.” [Note 21] . . . The use of Scripture then, especially its spiritual or second sense, as a medium of thought and deduction, is a characteristic principle of doctrinal teaching in the Church.

As for the prevalence of rank, serious Christological error in Antioch, I offer the following list of its heretical patriarchs (Protestants and Catholics pretty much agree on Chalcedonian Christology – all these heresies contradict that; thus are regarded as equally heretical in both camps):
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    Paul of Samosata 260-269 Modalist
    Eulalius c.322 Arian
    Euphronius c.327-c.329 Arian
    Leontius 344-58 Arian
    Eudoxius 358-60 Arian
    Euzoius 361-78 Arian
    Peter the Fuller 470,475-7, 482-88 Monophysite
    John Codonatus 477,488 Monophysite
    Palladius 488-98 Monophysite
    Severus 512-18 Monophysite
    Sergius c.542-c.557 Monophysite
    Paul “the Black” c.557-578 Monophysite
    Peter Callinicum 578-91 Monophysite
    Anthanasius c.621-629 Monothelite
    Macedonius 640-c.655 Monothelite
    Macarius c.655-681 Monothelite
Needless to say, this is not a very impressive record for orthodoxy. It would be difficult to argue that the local, prevailing method of biblical hermeneutics had nothing to do with this. The Nestorian heresy, in particular, was strongly connected to Antioch, as we learn from a reputable Protestant scholarly source:
Nestorius (d.c. 451), from whom the heresy takes its name . . . entered a monastery at Antioch, where he became imbued with the principles of the Antiochene theological school, and probably studied under Theodore of Mopsuestia . . . Nestorius’s opponents succeeded in winning the support of St. Cyril of Alexandria and the Egyptian monks to their cause. Both sides having appealed to Rome, at a Council held there in August 430, Nestorius’s teaching was condemned by Pope Celestine.[and also in 431 by the Ecumenical Council of Ephesus which proclaimed in opposition that Mary was the “Mother of God” or “Theotokos,” not simply “Christotokos”]  (F. L. Cross and E. A. Livingstone, editors, The Oxford Dictionary of the Christian Church, Oxford Univ. Press, 2nd ed., 1983, 961-962)
Nor was the Antiochene emphasis in soteriology at all consistent with Protestant (and Catholic) emphases, as another Protestant reference work points out:
[I]ts soteriology . . . admitted a significant place to human merit. This fact may explain Nestorius’s sympathy for Pelagius.[it is also noted that Antioch’s Christological tendency “was towards Sabellianism”] (J. D. Douglas, editor, The New International Dictionary of the Christian Church, Grand Rapids, Michigan: Zondervan Pub. House, revised edition of 1978, 49)
Thus we see a time-honored tendency of Protestant polemics: anyone or any school or sect which disagrees with the Catholic Church in any given belief is co-opted as a “comrade-in-arms” in the struggle to counter the “errors” of the “Roman Church.” Thus the Antiochene School of Theology becomes the great proponent of perspicuity and the grammatico-historical interpretation of Scripture, and champion of a sort of proto-evangelicalism, while its grave Christological and soteriological heresies (equally rejected and decried by orthodox Protestantism) are overlooked or de-emphasized.
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They don’t matter, because the object is to find some agreement, any agreement, with much-later Protestant principles. Once those are located (in actuality or only in imagination), any other aspects of the holder’s belief are ignored (whether consciously or unconsciously). Frankly, I find this method to be special pleading, and plain bad historiography.
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Even the greatest and most orthodox figure to come out of this school, St. John Chrysostom, takes an entirely Catholic view of Tradition, by no means harmonious with the Protestant sola Scriptura:
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    “Therefore, brethren, stand fast and hold the traditions which you have been taught, whether by word or by our letter” [2 Thess 2:15]. From this it is clear that they did not hand down everything by letter, but there was much also that was not written. Like that which was written, the unwritten too is worthy of belief. So let us regard the tradition of the Church also as worthy of belief. Is it a tradition? Seek no further. (Homilies on 2 Thess 4:2)

The Patristic and Catholic Approach to Hermeneutics
 
John F. McCarthy, in his series of online essays, The Neo-Patristic Approach to Sacred Scripture (emphasis added), presents the Catholic view of these matters, which differs (even with regard to historical questions) markedly from the Protestant one (while in some respects it is much more similar than one might suppose):
Why promote the neo-Patristic approach? Meditation upon things said in Sacred Scripture is important for every Christian. The Fathers of the Church have laid out a basic Christian approach to the study and meditation of the inspired word. This approach of the Fathers was followed by all Catholic exegetes, especially as regards the literal sense, but in recent centuries with lessening emphasis upon the spiritual senses except for certain texts relating to the dogmas of the Church. However, towards the end of the nineteenth century some Catholic exegetes (interpreters) began to follow what is now known as the historical-critical approach, developed by rationalist and liberal Protestant exegetes, and this new approach has now with some exceptions virtually supplanted the Patristic approach among Catholic biblical scholars.
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But many problems and logical contradictions have arisen from the results of historical-critical interpretation, even when used by Catholic exegetes. The neo-Patristic approach aims to address and solve these problems and contradictions and to reinstate the Patristic approach by the use of an updated framework based upon the largely implicit framework of the Fathers of the Church in the hope of enabling insights old and new and of making it easier to pray the Scriptures.. . . . The Patristic approach is recommended, if not mandated, in the Catechism of the Catholic Church (paragraphs 115-119). These paragraphs should be reread and discussed. They illustrate the need and the urgency of developing the neo-Patristic approach. . . .

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The neo-Patristic method uses the framework of the four senses of Sacred Scripture, as developed initially by St. Augustine of Hippo and others and more fully by St. Thomas Aquinas, especially in his Summa Theologiae (part I, question 1, article 10) See Thomas Kuffel, “St. Thomas’ Method of Biblical Exegesis,” in Living Tradition, no. 38 (November 1991). The four senses involved are the literal sense, the allegorical sense, the tropological, or moral, sense, and the anagogical, or eschatological, sense (also known as the final sense). These four senses will be examined in the course of this study program.

The neo-Patristic method, just as the Patristic method, always begins with the literal sense of a passage, which sense is basic to the three spiritual senses and can be understood to a degree without them, but, from a neo-Patristic viewpoint, it cannot be fully understood except in contrast with one or more of the spiritual senses which may be written with the same words into the same passage.

Importance of the literal sense. Pope Pius XII, in his encyclical letter Divino afflante Spiritu (Enchiridion biblicum, 550; Rome and the Study of Scripture, 550), points out to interpreters of the Sacred Books that “their foremost and greatest endeavor should be to discern and define clearly that sense of the biblical words which is called literal.” It is necessary to determine first what the sacred text really says before one can come to understand what the sacred text really means.

All of the truths that are necessary for faith are expressed or implied in the literal sense of Sacred Scripture or in the Sacred Tradition of the Church, and, we might add, the basic facts and truths that underlie the three spiritual senses of Sacred Scripture are all presented somewhere in the literal sense of the Scriptures or in the Sacred Tradition of the Church.

The neo-Patristic approach to historicity. While the historical-critical method tends to assume that accounts in the Sacred Scriptures are unhistorical in the modern sense, the neo-Patristic method assumes that Scriptural accounts presented as history are historical. This difference between the two methods arises historically from the fact that historical-criticism is rooted in rationalism, while the neo-Patristic method is rooted in belief that the Sacred Scriptures have been written by God through the human instrumentality of the sacred writers. The sacred writers were not used as subhuman instruments in the sense of automatic writing in which the human writer writes unconsciously under the influence of someone else, but through their use by the Holy Spirit as rational persons who were cooperating with their mind and will. In the neo-Patristic understanding of divine inspiration, what the sacred writers wrote was not limited entirely by their own background and personal capacities; they were not confined by their own knowledge and experience.

St. Thomas Aquinas (1225-1274)
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Thomas Aquinas, the “angelic doctor” of the Church, moved away from a reliance upon allegorical interpretation toward an appreciation of the literal meaning of Scripture. He still promoted allegory, dividing it into three possible meanings, but insisted that all allegorical interpretation must rise from the literal meaning, not apart from it. All these meanings are possible because God has the power to use human language and adapt it as needed for his own purposes.

Since the literal sense is that which the author intends, and since the author of Holy Writ is God, Who by one act comprehends all things by His intellect, it is not unfitting, as Augustine says (Confess. xii), if, even according to the literal sense, one word in Holy Writ should have several senses.

All of this was identical to the patristic consensus, and no different from the usual, normative approach of Catholicism throughout its entire history, so again, it looks like we are dealing here with a vast oversimplification, and a co-opting of St. Thomas as another sort of “proto-Protestant,” which is as ludicrous as when the same attempt is made to “claim” St. Augustine. The very fact that Protestants so admire Augustine and Aquinas and want so much to claim them for their camp (when in fact they are entirely Catholic, and the preeminent Catholic theologians) shows that something is strangely, ironically awry in the Protestant opinion of Catholicism, and that the Catholic Church throughout its history was far more “on the ball” than many Protestants are willing to admit.

John F. McCarthy, in his online essay, Neo-Patristic Exegesis to the Rescue, elaborates:
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    St. Thomas reflected on this method and gave a valuable explanation of the four senses in addition to expounding them in his commentaries on the Scriptures. His teaching can serve as the starting point for a more extended and differentiated exposition of this method, beginning with the first big distinction between the “literal” sense and the “spiritual,” or “mystical,” sense. For St. Thomas, this distinction arises from the fact that the rightly understood meaning of the words themselves of Sacred Scripture pertains to the literal, or historical, sense, while the fact that the things expressed by the words signify other things produces the spiritual sense. Thus, the spiritual sense is understood to be a typical, or figurative, sense which is based upon the literal sense and presupposes it. This basic double sense is possible because God, who is the principal Author of Sacred Scripture, has brought it about that things and events having their own historical meaning are used also to signify other things. But the central thing signified by these prefigurements is Jesus Christ Himself, who as the God-Man is the central focus of the spiritual sense and the subject of an extended symbolism which is known as the Allegory of Christ.The distinction between the literal and the spiritual senses of Sacred Scripture is analytical, even though spiritual realities are often the primary meaning of a text, because a certain interaction of faith and reason is implied in this division. The original meaning of words can be examined by unaided reason, as can the unfolding of visible happenings, but the spiritual meaning of words and events can be seen only by the light of faith. In Part I, Question I of the Summa Theologiae, St. Thomas points out that revealed teaching is necessary for man (article 1), that this teaching is a science based upon revealed truths that are visible under the light of faith (article 2), and that God is the subject of this science (article 7). Approaching, then, the distinction between the literal and the spiritual senses from an analytical point of view, I would say that the literal sense tends to be exclusively seen by the unaided human reason, while the spiritual sense is penetrated by theological reason aided by the light of faith. Where the text is speaking literally about spiritual realities, and above all about supernatural realities, the unaided reason can see the statement in a flattened and unmeaningful way, but it cannot “understand” the statement. Where the text contains spiritual meanings beneath the literal sense, the unaided reason can see these meanings at best in a flattened and unmeaningful way, while reason enlightened by faith can both see the spiritual meanings in a meaningful way and see the literal meaning in a more complete way – provided that it has the appropriate theological framework at its command. Looking, then, at sacred teaching as presented by the text of Sacred Scripture, and reasoning along the lines of St. Thomas, we can justifiably say that the inspired writings are necessary, not only because what is contained in them spiritually could not be figured out by man on his own, but also because the poor, fallen reason of man tends away from the spiritual truth and towards his own self-gratification. Men without grace do not want to know the spiritual truth and they endeavor to rub it out where it is written. But men possessed of faith and sanctifying grace will discover the truth and understand it. . . . St. Thomas answers affirmatively to the question “whether there ought to be distinguished four senses of Sacred Scripture,”34 basing his response upon the authority of St. Augustine of Hippo and of Venerable Bede. St. Augustine observed: “In all the holy books it is behooving to discern the eternal things to be seen there, the deeds that are there narrated, the future things that are predicted, the things that are commanded to be done.”35 St. Thomas sees these four things to refer respectively to the anagogical, the historical, the allegorical, and the tropological senses of Sacred Scripture. St. Thomas also quotes Venerable Bede as saying: “There are four senses of Sacred Scripture: history, which narrates things done; allegory, in which one thing is understood from another; tropology (that is, moral discourse), in which the ordering of habits is treated; and anagogy, by which we are led upward to treat of highest and heavenly things.”36 St. Thomas identifies the “historical sense” of Bede with the literal sense presented by the words themselves, and he makes an analytical division of the spiritual sense into allegory, tropology, and anagogy . . . . . . St. Thomas notes in the first place that things which actually happened can refer to Christ and his members as shadows of the truth, and this is what produces the allegorical sense, while other comparisons, being imaginary rather than real, whether in Sacred Scripture or in other literature, do not stand outside of the literal sense. Hence, the allegorical sense of Sacred Scripture is not imaginary and is not a genre of human inventiveness. . . . Finally, it might seem that, if these four senses were necessary for Sacred Scripture, each and every part of Sacred Scripture would have to have these four senses, but, as Augustine says in his commentary on Genesis, “in some parts the literal sense alone is to be sought.” To this St. Thomas replies that various parts of Scripture have four, three, two, or only one of these senses. Thus, the literal events of the Old Testament can be expounded in the four senses. The things spoken literally of Christ as the Head of the New Testament Church can also be expounded according to the four senses, because the historical Body of Christ can be expounded allegorically of the Mystical Body of Christ, and tropologically of the acts of the faithful to be modelled after the example of Christ, and anagogically inasmuch as Christ is the way to glory that has been shown to us. The things spoken literally of the Church of the New Testament can be expounded in three senses, because they can also be expounded tropologically and anagogically, but not allegorically, except that things mentioned literally regarding the primitive Church may have allegorical meaning regarding the later Church of the New Testament. The things of moral import in the literal sense can be expounded only literally and allegorically. And, finally, the things spoken literally regarding the state of glory cannot be expounded in any other sense.

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Photo credit: Miniature of the book’s author, Vincent of Beauvais, within a border containing the arms of Edward IV, to whom this manuscript belonged. Miroir historial, vol. 1 (Vincent of Beauvais, Speculum historiale, trans. into French by Jean de Vignay), Bruges, c. 1478-1480, Royal 14 E. i, vol. 1, f. 3r [public domain / Wikimedia Commons]

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Exodus From Rome, Volume 2: A Biblical and Historical Critique of Roman Catholicism (The Scofield Institute Press, 8 April 2018), by Todd D. Baker, is the latest of a long line of anti-Catholic critiques of Catholicism (i.e., from the perspective that Catholicism isn’t a species of Christianity, and is a “false gospel”). They’re utterly predictable in their lame, oft-refuted “arguments.” I’ve dealt with them innumerable times on my Anti-Catholicism and James White web pages. I wouldn’t spend any time on this at all, except that he mentions my name, and I have an “exception” policy of responding to direct arguments against my own writing: even from anti-Catholics.

Dr. Todd Baker is president of B’rit Hadashah Ministries and Pastor of Shalom Messianic Congregation in Dallas, Texas. He holds a Bachelor of Science Degree in Biblical Studies, a Master of Theology degree from Dallas Theological Seminary, and a Ph.D. in Philosophy and Apologetics from Trinity Seminary under the auspices of Liverpool University at Liverpool, England. He is a professor at Scofield Bible Institute and staff theologian and writer for Zola Levitt Ministries. He has appeared on the television program Zola Levitt Presents several times. With his extensive experience in Jewish Evangelism, he conducts Gospel outreaches to Israel several times a year.

Dr. Baker’s words, from his book, will be in blue.

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I. Apostolic Tradition and “Traditions of Men” in Scripture, and Sola Scriptura

[Footnote] 23. Dave Armstrong, 100 Biblical Arguments Against Sola Scriptura (San Diego, Catholic Answers, 2012); Msgr. George Agius, Tradition, 11. Armstrong’s ridiculously entitled book purports to give 100 airtight arguments from the Bible against sola scriptura (the belief Scripture alone is the final and ultimate authority for the Christian). Upon a closer reading of his text the savvy, intelligent Bible discerner will see that all of Armstrong’s arguments are basically riddled with half-truths, straw-man arguments, and begging the question premises—all of which have been thoroughly answered and refuted, in one form or another, by Bible believing apologists.

That may or may not possibly be true of my book and my arguments, of course, but by the same token, this description (as Dr. Baker certainly knows) is not a rational argument. It’s merely a hostile description. In order to demonstrate the merit of the arguments I make in my book, they would have to actually be interacted with, and attempted refutations made.

But anti-Catholics would rather crawl over broken glass on their bare knees for a mile than ever do that! It’s much easier to mock and dismiss with a few childish lines. I’ve written more about sola Scriptura than about any other topic (in my 27 years of Catholic apologetics), and there are plans for my third book on the topic to be published soon. See my Bible and Tradition web page.

See, for example, William Whitaker, Disputation On Holy Scripture;

Yeah, I wrote an entire 310-page book in which I deal point-by-point with the arguments of Whitaker (1548-1595)  and also those of William Goode (1801-1868). I did so because many Protestants contend that these two men are the best historic defenders of sola Scriptura. And (what a surprise!) no Protestant (for nearly six years now) has ever even attempted to refute what I offer there. To modify an old saying a bit: “if you can’t beat ’em, flee for the hills.”

David T. King and William Webster, Holy Scripture: The Ground and Pillar of Our Faith, vol. 1–3;

Yep. I’ve refuted large portions of the books of these two men (or other papers by them) many times. With regard to the present topic, see:

David T. King Ignores Sola Scriptura Biblical Disproofs  (Incl. lengthy analysis of 2 Peter 1:20: “no prophecy of scripture is a matter of one’s own interpretation”) [11-13-17]
William Webster was duly informed of my first paper written in response to his atrocious, embarrassing arguments in 2000. He appeared to express some interest in counter-responding, but alas, never did, and never has since that time. The same holds for Pastor King. He tried to lie about and misrepresent my hero, Cardinal Newman, in 2002 (making out that he was a flaming modernist), until I roundly refuted him. He has never dared to debate me since that time. It’s an old familiar pattern of behavior by now.
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Johann Gerhard, On the Nature and Theology of Scripture; Don Kistler, Sola Scriptura; Martin Chemnitz, Examination of the Council of Trent, vol. 1; William Webster, Roman Catholic Tradition: Claims and Contradictions.

I’ve dealt with Chemnitz’s arguments as well, and have his book about Trent in my library (hardcover). Presently, those articles are only available at Internet Archive (I have to upload them to my current blog), but if anyone wants to read them, they are listed on my Lutheranism web page (search “Chemnitz”).

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Catholic apologist Dave Armstrong concludes this has to be what Paul meant:

When Paul spoke of receiving and delivering such traditions, he gave no indication that they were infallible or that he questioned any of them because they came through oral transmission rather than the written word. Thus, he appears to take for granted that which many Protestants have the hardest time grasping and accepting. 76 (Emphasis mine.)

[Footnote] 76. Armstrong, 100 Biblical Arguments, 23.

Dr. Baker botches the quote and in so doing, changes the meaning quite a bit. Where he has “infallible” the actual word I had was “fallible.” I will give him the benefit of the doubt that it was probably an innocent mistake, but this demonstrates the supreme importance of citing accurately.

The thought I was expressing, then, was that, for St. Paul, tradition (including extrabiblical tradition) was authoritative and binding and infallible: both in written and oral form. This directly contradicts sola Scriptura.

What Armstrong fails to take into account is that the Pharisees, in Paul and Jesus’ day, believed Judaism’s oral traditions (later codified in the Talmud) were the unwritten Word of God equal in authority to the written Word of God in Holy Scripture.

Agreed; and Jesus and Paul and the early Christians believed in oral tradition as well. See my papers:

James White’s Critique of My Book, The Catholic Verses: Part I: The Binding Authority of Tradition [12-30-04]

Biblical Evidence for Apostolic Oral Tradition [2-20-09]

Biblical Evidence for the Oral Torah [10-18-11]

Sola Scriptura, the Old Testament, & Ancient Jewish Practice [1999]

Paul, a former Pharisee, not only knew of this major tenet of Pharisaism, but also once believed it as a former Pharisee (Philippians 3:5).

St. Paul was not a “former Pharisee. He still called himself a Pharisee after he became a Christian. He says so twice:

Acts 23:6 (RSV) . . . “Brethren, I am a Pharisee, a son of Pharisees . . . “

Acts 26:5 . . . according to the strictest party of our religion I have lived as a Pharisee.

St. Paul continued to worship in the temple and observe the rites there, including animal sacrifice (Acts 21:26; 22:17; 24:12, 17-18). Indeed, he was doing so when he was arrested. He continued to worship in the synagogues as well, even presiding over some of the services (Acts 13:13-44; cf. 18:4). He acknowledged the authority of the Jewish high priest as his own “ruler” (Acts 23:1-8).

The oral law was placed alongside Scripture by the Pharisees to complete the Word of God. But both Jesus and Paul rebuke this grave error by calling these traditions what they really were in origin and creation—“the traditions and doctrines of men” (Matthew 15:1–10; Mark 7:1–13; Colossians 2:8).

There were indeed (and are) mere “traditions of men” (i.e., contrary to apostolic, true traditions). Jesus and Paul refer to both, so it must be determined which is being referred to in any given context. Jesus told his disciples to observe what the Pharisees told them to do, even if they were hypocrites (Mt 23:1-3), and He said they had this authority because they sit on “Moses’ seat”: a notion that is not found in the Old Testament. See:

“Tradition” Isn’t a Dirty Word [late 90s; rev. 8-16-16]

Biblical Evidence for True Apostolic Tradition (vs. “Traditions of Men”) [6-23-11]

Reply to William Whitaker’s Sola Scriptura Arguments: Absurd Alleged Biblical Indications Against Apostolic Tradition [10-20-11]

“Moses’ Seat” & Jesus vs. Sola Scriptura (vs. James White) [12-27-03]

Refutation of James White: Moses’ Seat, the Bible, and Tradition (Introduction: #1) (+Part II Part III | Part IV | Part V | Part VI) [5-12-05]

If Armstrong were adequately educated about what first century Judaism teaches then and today about the so called divine origin of their oral tradition, he would see that Jesus’ and Paul’s condemnation of man-man tradition purported to be from God, is the same thing the Roman Catholic Church believes their Sacred Tradition to be—the unwritten word of God. So the well-deserved rejection of manmade religious traditions by Jesus and Paul equally applies to the traditions of Rome, which also deny the sole sufficiency of God’s Word alone!

This doesn’t follow logically at all, nor has Dr. Baker demonstrated it. He’s merely spouting anti-Catholic talking-points, from the 500-year-old playbook. I provide biblical (and patristic and rational) arguments for every single distinctively Catholic doctrine; most notably in my volume, Bible Proofs for Catholic Truths (which is 95% Scripture verses), but also in my books, A Biblical Defense of Catholicism, The Catholic Verses: 95 Bible Passages That Confound Protestants, The One-Minute Apologist, Proving the Catholic Faith is Biblical, and Revelation!: 1001 Bible Answers to Theological Questions. If any doctrine is “manmade” it’s sola Scriptura: a completely unbiblical and incoherent, self-refuting doctrine.

If tradition, in the three places Paul mentions it in a positive light in the New Testament, became a part of his inscripturated writings of the New Testament, as we have thus far adequately demonstrated, then Armstrong’s forced and unwarranted differentiation between traditions of men and the unwritten traditions of God does not hold water; and he is simply committing the fallacy of equivocation. The fallacy of equivocation occurs when an ambiguous term is taken one way in one occurrence in the argument and then in another way in the second occurrence without showing clear epistemic and contextual justification for making this difference in meaning (i.e., man-made tradition vis a vis the unwritten traditions of God permanently existing outside of Scripture). 77

[Footnote] 77. Douglas N. Walton. Informal Logic: A Handbook For Critical Argumentation (New York: Cambridge, 1989), 250.

This is far too simplistic. Dr. Baker claims that all legitimate traditions become “inscripturated.” But this is a circular argument. The Protestant who argues in this way simply assumes it without demonstrating it from the Bible. Nowhere in the actual Bible does it ever say that absolutely every tradition must eventually wind up explicitly mentioned in the Bible, or else it is non-binding and illegitimate.

Nor does the Bible ever say that every Christian doctrine must be explicitly laid out in Scripture. Nor does it ever spell out and define sola Scriptura and claim (as Protestants habitually do) that only Scripture is infallible and binding as the rule of faith. The quickest way to demonstrate this is to bring up the canon of the Bible, which is nowhere listed in the Bible.

Therefore, it is an extrabiblical tradition that is universally accepted by Christians (the only difference being the Protestant non-acceptance of the seven books of the deuterocanon). Every Protestant uncritically accepts on faith the 27-book canon of the New Testament, not because of sola Scriptura, but because of Church authority and declarations (infallible tradition and an infallible Church decree) going back to the 4th century. There is no way out of this dilemma.

Another quick way to refute sola Scriptura is to cite the Jerusalem Council, which gave a binding decree that all Christians everywhere were henceforth bound to. St. Paul himself passed along the decree in his missionary travels (Acts 16:4). It was an infallible council and Church authority: expressly contrary to sola Scriptura, which holds that only Scripture is infallible.

Dave Armstrong does the same thing when arbitrarily assuming for the Catholic Church that the tradition(s) Paul equates with apostolic teaching do not point to the apostolic writings in Scripture. Therefore Armstrong assumes these traditions must, of necessity, exist outside of Scripture; without unequivocally demonstrating that the apostle meant exactly this when he writes of the apostolic traditions taught in the churches of the first century. Indeed, we have contextually proven in each case these traditions are the very teachings and instructions Paul writes in his New Testament epistles— and thus part of the written Word of God.

Such a universal negative cannot and has not been proven. It’s assumed without argument, which is no rational (or biblical) argument. This is one of many arbitrary Protestant traditions of men: that every time “tradition” is alluded to in the New Testament, it must be referring to something in Scripture (i.e., because the Protestant has unbiblically assumed from the outset that it must do so; not because the Bible ever says so).

II. Mary and the Ark of the Covenant

Catholic theology also believes that the Ark of the Covenant typifies the person of Mary, and like the Ark that could not be touched because it was so holy, Mary in this way could not be touched by a man. Mary symbolizes the Ark since she bore the incarnate Son of God, much in the same way the Ark of the Covenant housed the presence of God. Catholic apologist Dave Armstrong makes the following comparison between the Ark of the Covenant and Mary:

The ark of the old covenant was constructed according to meticulous instructions from God (Exod. 25:9; 39:42–43). How much more perfect must the “God-bearer” be who would carry in her womb God made flesh, the eternal Logos, or “Word” of God, the Second Person of the Blessed Trinity? 117

[Footnote] 117. Dave Armstrong, A Biblical Defense of Catholicism (Bedford, NJ: Sophia Press, 2003), 179. [The correct bibliographical information is Manchester, New Hampshire and Sophia Institute Press. Apparently, Dr. Baker got “Bedford” from Wikipedia, but still got the state wrong. Both my book and the current website for Sophia list Manchester, New Hampshire as the mailing address (street address: Nashua, NH)]

Once again, both Staples and Armstrong, following a long train of Roman Catholic tradition, read their own presuppositional ideas of Mary into the biblical texts.

We’re not reading into anything! The many parallels are there in Scripture (as I have written about), as an example of types and shadows or typology: a familiar biblical motif that Protestants accept as much as we do. Secondly, Protestants always claim to be more in line with the teachings of the Church fathers in the early centuries than Catholics are. There is plenty of documentation of this comparison of Mary with the ark from the Church fathers.

For example, it is alluded to by Hippolytus, Ephrem, Ambrose, Cyril  of Jerusalem, Athanasius, Dionysius, Theodotus, and Jerome (not a one of whom ever taught sola fide or sola Scriptura or denied baptismal regeneration or the Real Substantial Presence of Christ in the Holy Eucharist). Anti-Catholics like Dr. Baker need to take it up with them, then, if they don’t like this, rather than Armstrong and Staples, who are merely reiterating and passing along what has long since been observed.

III. Mary Spouse of the Holy Spirit

The Holy Spirit was not a husband to Mary; He was the super-natural Person and means that conceived the incarnate Son of God in her virgin womb. In this capacity, the Holy Spirit can no way be a spouse to Mary, any more than the seed from the man inseminates the female womb in normal birth could function as a spouse. Joseph was the spouse of Mary, as so plainly revealed in Scripture. Matthew 1:18 identifies Joseph to be the spouse of Mary. “After His mother Mary was espoused (betrothed) to Joseph, before they came together, she was found with child of the Holy Spirit.” Clearly it was Joseph identified to be the male spouse of Mary, for they were already betrothed to each other before the virgin conception of the Holy Spirit. Betrothal in first century Israel was considered as binding as living in a married state, so much so that divorce was necessary to break off the engagement (Matthew 1:18). Hence, they were, in effect, already married, with Joseph being the legal spouse of Mary. Joseph was thus considered to be the only spouse of Mary before and after the virgin birth (see Luke 1:27; 2:5, respectively). A logical understanding of what is involved in marriage between a man and a woman require that only Joseph could be the legal spouse of Mary. It is assumed by Rome, without proof or mention in Scripture, that in order for the Holy Spirit to supernaturally conceive the God-Man Jesus in her womb, she had to be married first to the Holy Spirit. This belief borders on complete absurdity, for this was no ordinary conception.

Of course Joseph was her spouse. No one is denying that. So was (in a sense) the Holy Spirit. Dr. Baker, once again, is woefully ignorant of this motif in Scripture of God being a “spouse”. It’s nothing new at all, and I have written about it. Here is a large portion of that paper of mine:

Scripture speaks in terms of the bride being the Church, and makes analogies between marriage and Christ and His Church. So why should there be controversy about Mary being the spouse of the Holy Spirit?

By the same general reasoning that applies to Theotokos (arguing solely from the Bible, not Catholic tradition), it seems to me that “spouse of God” would also be appropriate and non-objectionable. That Jesus’ conception was of the Holy Spirit as a sort of “Father” is plain in the Bible [Mt 1:18-20 is then cited; cf. Lk 1:31, 34-35].

If we ask, then, “Who is Jesus’ father?” (in terms of the origin of His conception), it’s not Joseph, but the Holy Spirit in one sense, and God the Father in another. Multiple senses and meanings and applications are common in Holy Scripture.

By analogy, then, if Jesus’ parents were Mary and the Holy Spirit, then by simple analogy it follows that Mary (in this particular sense, and this alone) is the “spouse of God” just as she was the Mother of God.

Likewise, “spouse of God” is thought to imply an equality with God, when in fact it’s only a limited analogical description based on Mary’s relation to the Holy Spirit in the matter of the conception of Jesus. This description is no more “unbiblical” or non-harmonious with scriptural thought than St. Paul saying “we are God’s fellow workers” (1 Cor 3:9; cf. 2 Cor 6:1), or St. Peter referring to men becoming “partakers of the divine nature” (2 Pet 1:4; cf. 1 Jn 3:2). These are similarly understood as not entailing equality with God.

Along these lines, there are many biblical passages about Israel or the Church being the “bride” of God the Father or Jesus Christ, God the Son:

Isaiah 54:5 For your Maker is your husband, the LORD of hosts is his name; . . .

Isaiah 62:5 . . . as the bridegroom rejoices over the bride, so shall your God rejoice over you.

Jeremiah 31:32 . . . my covenant which they broke, though I was their husband, says the LORD. (cf. 3:20)

Hosea 2:16, 19-20 “And in that day, says the LORD, you will call me, `My husband,’ and no longer will you call me, `My Ba’al.’ . . . [19] And I will betroth you to me for ever; . . . (cf. 4:12; 9:1)

Matthew 9:15 And Jesus said to them, “Can the wedding guests mourn as long as the bridegroom is with them?” (cf. Mk 2:19-20; Lk 5:34-35; Mt 25:1-10)

2 Corinthians 11:2 I feel a divine jealousy for you, for I betrothed you to Christ to present you as a pure bride to her one husband.

Ephesians 5:28-29, 32 Even so husbands should love their wives as their own bodies. He who loves his wife loves himself. [29] For no man ever hates his own flesh, but nourishes and cherishes it, as Christ does the church, . . . [32] This mystery is a profound one, and I am saying that it refers to Christ and the church (cf. Rev 19:7; 21:2; 21:9)

IV. Mary Mediatrix and “Mini-Mediators”

The Catholic justification for Mary’s special role of mediatrix is rationalized on the supposition that God had appointed other mediators in the past. Moses acted in this capacity when he gave God’s law to the nation of Israel (Exodus 32:30; Galatians 3:19). The same Greek word for mediator that is used in 1 Timothy 2:5 is also used in Galatians 3:19–20. Catholic apologist Dave Armstrong phrases such justification in this way:

Mary is Mediatrix in that way, but she is in a second sense also. God clearly uses many human beings as mediators. We pray for each other. Moses interceded and “atoned” for the Jews in the wilderness, and God decided not to destroy them (Ex 32:30). If Moses could successfully intercede on behalf of an entire sinful and disobedient group, and if Abraham’s prayer could spare his nephew Lot (and potentially Sodom and Gomorrah also, if enough righteous men had been found there: Gen 18:20–32), why is it so remarkable that God would choose to involve Mary in intercession and distribution of graces to an entire sinful and disobedient group (mankind)? 84

[Footnote] 84. Dave Armstrong, “Mary: A Biblical & Theological Primer” at http://www.patheos.com/blogs/davearmstrong/2016/12/mary-mediatrixvs-jesus-christ-sole-mediator.html. Retrieved on February 8, 2017.

Despite the casuistic explanations to defend Mary’s title and function as mediatrix of all salvation graces, the death knell for Mary in the role of special Co-mediatrix is definitely and absolutely refuted, first and foremost, by the shattering truth of 1 Timothy 2:5, which states Christ alone is the one established God-ordained Mediator between God and man. “For there one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus” (1 Timothy 2:5). Paul’s emphatic proclamation in 1 Timothy 2:5 is both absolute and exclusionary of any other effective Mediator of the New Covenant, from whom and through the salvation of sinners is given. . . . 

1 Timothy 2:5 doesn’t rule out secondary, non-essential “mini-mediators” by the grace of God. As usual, the Bible has a “both/and” outlook; not an “either/or” one, based on false dichotomies. They are not usurping the sole prerogative of Jesus Christ. They are functioning as His messengers or “aides” in the application of the grace that always ultimately comes from God. See my papers:

“One Mediator” (1 Tim 2:5) vs. All Human Mediation? [10-14-08]

Mary Mediatrix vs. Jesus Christ the Sole Mediator? [1-30-03]

Mary Mediatrix: A Biblical Explanation [1999]

Biblical Evidence for Mary Mediatrix [11-25-08]

Mary Mediatrix: A Biblical & Theological Primer [9-15-15]

That Paul would not allow any other mediators of the saving grace of the New Covenant is further reinforced a fortiori by the fact that he uses a one to one correspondence between the one God and His one Mediator; for the one God corresponds in incontrovertible kind with His one Mediator Jesus Christ. One, thus, means one only and thereby excludes all other mediators from this role. Consequently, by logical deduction, this excludes Mary or any other person from being an additional God-appointed mediator and dispenser of salvific graces under the New Covenant. . . . 

Paul, and the rest of the New Testament church, . . .  knew that God’s undeserved favor (grace) was channeled, distributed, and given by God through Jesus Christ alone—the fount and great Mediator from whence all saving grace flows and is given for the salvation of sinners. Long after Mary’s death, the apostle John wrote in the mid-nineties, in the book of Revelation, that nothing has changed with regard to Jesus being the only source of God’s saving grace: . . .

That’s a very odd thing to claim, since Paul wrote about himself and others:

2 Corinthians 4:15 For it [his many sufferings: 4:8-12, 17] is all for your sake, so that as grace extends to more and more people it may increase thanksgiving, to the glory of God.

Ephesians 3:2 assuming that you have heard of the stewardship of God’s grace that was given to me for you…

Ephesians 4:29 Let no evil talk come out of your mouths, but only such as is good for edifying, as fits the occasion, that it may impart grace to those who hear.

Peter also stated in inspired divine revelation:

1 Peter 4:8b-10 . . . love covers a multitude of sins. Practice hospitality ungrudgingly to one another. As each has received a gift, employ it for one another, as good stewards of God’s varied grace.

Dr. Baker tries to dismiss the above passage (used in this way) as irrelevant by writing:

[W]hile every believer has been called to be a steward of grace (1 Corinthians 4:1–2; 9:17; 1 Peter 4:10), which involves sharing the saving grace that is part and parcel of the Gospel, these Christian ministers, or mediators, do not have the power or authority to give and delegate that grace from the throne of God.

This is what is called in logic, a “red herring.” In other words, the above claim has nothing to do with the argument as used by Catholics, since we never claimed that anyone but God was sending grace “from the throne of God” in the first place. They obviously couldn’t do that because only God sits on God’s throne! This is obvious from the passage itself, which employs the notion of “steward of grace ” (or, “distributor”) exactly as Catholics do in talking about Mary Mediatrix. The believer “received a gift” from God and then blesses others with it, or passes it on.

A related thought occurs in 4:11, where Peter refers to services rendered to others “by the strength which God supplies; in order that in everything God may be glorified through Jesus Christ.” The scriptural notion of a spiritual gift is, of course, always presented as coming from God: “gifts bestowed on us by God” (1 Cor 2:12), “gifts of the Spirit of God” (1 Cor 2:14), “each has his own special gift from God” (1 Cor 7:7), “All these are inspired by one and the same Spirit, who apportions to each one individually as he wills” (1 Cor 12:11; referring back to his earlier reference to “gifts”: 12:4), “gifts of the Holy Spirit distributed according to his own will” (Heb 2:4), “every perfect gift is from above” (Jas 1:17). 

Note a fascinating thing, though, that perfectly reinforces the Catholic argument about “mini-mediators” or “mini-distributors” of God-originated / God-caused grace. Just as all grace comes from Him, but He often sends it through human channels or “conduits”, likewise, spiritual gifts all come from Him, but we see in Scripture that they, too, are sometimes passed along to men from God through human intermediaries:

Romans 1:11  For I long to see you, that I may impart to you some spiritual gift to strengthen you,

1 Timothy 4:14 Do not neglect the gift you have, which was given you by prophetic utterance when the council of elders laid their hands upon you.

2 Timothy 1:6 Hence I remind you to rekindle the gift of God that is within you through the laying on of my hands;

God gives His grace to the believer directly through Jesus Christ—a fact stated multiple times in the New Testament.

And sometimes this grace from the Father and the Spirit through Christ comes through human beings, as just proven above.

Paul frequently states this indispensable truth in the salutary opening of his epistles: “Grace to you and peace from God the Father, and from our Lord Jesus Christ.” (Romans 1:5; 1 Corinthians 1:3; 2 Corinthians 1:2; Galatians 1:3; Ephesians 1:2; Philippians 1:2; Colossians 1:2; 1 Thessalonians 1:1; 2 Thessalonians 1:2; 1 Timothy 1:2; 2 Timothy 1:2; Titus 1:4; Philemon 1:3).

Yes He does, and of course that is true (being in Scripture). But Dr. Baker conveniently left out another biblical truth (harmonious with the above) that he didn’t care for: one that shows that creatures are also involved in distributing grace from God:

Revelation 1:4 John to the seven churches that are in Asia: Grace to you and peace from him who is and who was and who is to come, and from the seven spirits who are before his throne

Isn’t it interesting that — with all our marvelous searching capabilities today — Dr. Baker could find no less than thirteen Bible passages all discussing “grace and peace” from God, while he somehow managed to miss Revelation 1:4. Could it be that it’s because the latter neatly, definitively refutes his notions thatPaul would not allow any other mediators of the saving grace of the New Covenant” and “excludes all other mediators” and “excludes Mary or any other person” and that “(grace) was channeled, distributed, and given by God through Jesus Christ alone” and is given “to the believer directly through Jesus Christ”?

When I do a “proximity search” of “grace” and “peace” in the same passage in the New Testament, on the online Bible I use, it lists all 13 of Dr. Baker’s passages, plus Revelation 1:4 and four others. Perhaps in wishing to avoid John’s verse that contradicts his argument, he restricted himself to Paul’s epistles. Only he can tell us. In any event, the Bible contradicts him. His 13 passages contradict nothing in Catholic theology, but Revelation 1:4 and the several other related passages I have provided sure do contradict Dr. Baker’s man-made theology on this point.

We have no problem whatsoever with the view that God originates and gives all grace. It is our view. We do have a problem, however, with the notion of God alone (excluding any creature participating as His agent) doing so, because it’s not biblical, as has now been demonstrated beyond all counter-argument. This is so often the problem with Protestantism and it’s unbiblical “either/or” approach. It talks about faith alone (while we affirm with them grace alone), and Scripture alone, etc.

It’s the false and unbiblical dichotomies that we reject. We do not reject faith or Scripture. We reject putting them in isolated positions in a way that Holy Scripture never does. We heartily agree with them about the scriptural instances of things being alone: like Jesus alone being our savior, redeemer, and dying for us on the cross, and grace alone. 

V. Have I Argued (or Even Claimed) that Protestant Sola Fide Doctrine is Antinomianism?

Sadly, Roman Catholic apologists primarily reject the biblical doctrine of sola fide based on a common misunderstanding of the doctrine. Consequently, salvation by faith alone is rejected based on straw-man arguments constructed by the defenders of Rome. The number one straw-man argument, ad nauseam, used by Roman Catholic apologists, is that the concept of faith alone is teaching, or at least implying, that obedience to God’s law is not important and good works performed after salvation are ignored. The notion that one expresses an intellectual assent to believe the facts of the Gospel without the fruit of obedient commitment to Jesus Christ is not sola fide, but the heresy of Antinomianism.

Much ink has been spilt by Catholic apologists Dave Armstrong, Patrick Madrid, Tim Staples, and Robert Sungenis, in setting up the antinomian “faith alone” straw-man argument based on a misunderstanding of what sola fide really teaches. Historically, the Reformation theologians never taught that the good works of the believer were inconsequential to salvation, but these works are wrought by the supernatural outworking of the indwelling Holy Spirit within the saved believer that shows genuine marks of spiritual regeneration and a salvation already received by faith in Jesus Christ. These good works are not antecedent or concurrent to earn or cooperate with God for salvation, but are the necessary result of that salvation.

It never ceases to amaze me how intelligent (anti-Catholic) scholars like Dr. Baker  so often are out to sea when it comes to searching a writer’s material in order to determine what he or she believes on a given topic. Failing to do that, they will almost invariably embarrass themselves, as Dr. Baker does in the present instance (as I will shortly demonstrate).

I’m sure the good doctor is able to navigate websites and do searches. It wasn’t rocket science for him to be able to figure out that I don’t believe at all what he falsely accuses me of believing here. Ironically, he says I utilize antinomianism as a straw man tactic to misrepresent the classic “Reformation” sola fide doctrine. In point of fact, it is he who has created a straw man in making false and outrageous claims about my alleged position on this matter. How ironic, huh?

We know Dr. Baker has at least visited my website once, because he cites an article from it (seen above, regarding Mary Mediatrix).  There are many easy ways to search it. He can do a word search on the right sidebar. I typed in “antinomian” there and lo and behold: look what came up first!: Martin Luther: Faith Alone is NOT Lawless Antinomianism. (all caps emphasis in the original title). This alone proves that I am not engaged in warring against straw men. I know what sola fide is (and how Protestants define it), and I know what antinomianism is, and I know that the two are not equivalent at all.

I’ve done extremely extensive research on Protestantism and the “Reformation”, and was an evangelical Protestant myself for thirteen years: including being a cult researcher, street evangelist, campus missionary, and apologist during that time. I know that Luther, the founder of Protestantism, did not teach it. At the end of that paper, we see a related link: Martin Luther: Good Works Prove Authentic Faith.

Without too much concerted effort word-searching (using the drop-down menus on the top) in my various related web pages: Luther, or Lutheranism, or Calvin, or Calvinism, or Justification and Salvation, Dr. Baker could also have easily run across my paper, John Calvin: Good Works Manifest True Saving Faith. This proves that I don’t think Calvin was an antinomian either.

But he was either unable, or — much more likely –, unwilling to do the necessary work of documenting an opponent’s views before proceeding to knock it (or rather, a mere straw man caricature of it down). He vastly underestimated his Catholic opponent (another extremely common mistake these guys make). And so he makes the dumb, clueless “argument” that I and other Catholic apologists are supposedly “setting up the antinomian “faith alone” straw-man argument based on a misunderstanding of what sola fide really teaches.”

It’s his choice if he wants to look like a fool or not. It’s not like it’s the first or last time an anti-Catholic zealot manifested himself as such, in the course of battling against us poor, pathetic papists, like Don Quixote going after the windmill. It’s about as frequent as the number of grains of sand in the Sahara Desert. Lest anyone doubt this for a second, see my Anti-Catholicism and James White web pages for extremely abundant examples.

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Photo credit: The Image of the true Catholic Church of Christ, according to John Foxe’s Book of Martyrs (1563) [public domain / Wikimedia Commons]

 

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Protestants Also Issue Plenty of Them (vs. James White)

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Synod of Dort (1618-1619), in which Reformed Protestants anathematized the Arminian Protestants who disagreed with them [public domain / Wikimedia Commons]

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White wrote in his book, Mary — Another Redeemer? (Minneapolis: Bethany House, 1998), in chapter four, devoted to the Immaculate Conception:

But just how serious this dogma is can be seen from what came
immediately after the definition:

Hence, if anyone shall dare—which God forbid!—to
think otherwise than as has been defined by us, let him
know and understand that he is condemned by his own
judgment; that he has suffered shipwreck in the faith; that
he has separated from the unity of the Church; and that,
furthermore, by his own action he incurs the penalties es-
tablished by law if he should dare to express in words or
writing or by any other outward means the errors he think
in his heart.

Here, with infallible and binding authority, the Pope forbids
anyone from even thinking otherwise than he has defined con-
cerning the Immaculate Conception. If you are led to a different
conclusion by the study of the Bible, or the study of history, you
are to submit your mind and your heart to the ultimate authority
of the Papacy, and reject even those conclusions derived from the
Word itself.

Mr. White acts as if this were the most novel and outrageous thing in the world: to require some tenet of faith to be held by the faithful, as if Protestants don’t do this, too. Of course, they do (all the time). Passing over the multitude of extraordinarily dogmatic statements from Luther and Calvin, anathematizing all who disagree (fellow Protestants and Catholics alike) with their own judgments (on entirely arbitrary grounds), we will examine a few of the Reformed creeds and confessions and discover that they take this exact same stance. The good Calvinist has to submit his “mind and heart to the ultimate authority of the creeds and confessions of Calvinism.” I don’t see how this state of affairs is all that different, in terms of being bound to some authority which offers an interpretation of the Bible and Christian doctrine.

Mr. White is a Calvinist (Reformed Baptist). One of the classic expositions of Calvinism was that set out by the Synod of Dort (1618-1619). We find statements from that synod such as the following, directed towards those who don’t accept the five points of Calvinism, or “TULIP” (which acronym derives from this very synod):

T = Total Depravity
U = Unconditional Election
L = Limited Atonement
I = Irresistible Grace
P = Perseverance of the Saints

Article 6: God’s Eternal Decision

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The fact that some receive from God the gift of faith within time, and that others do not, stems from his eternal decision. For all his works are known to God from eternity (Acts 15:18; Eph. 1:11). In accordance with this decision he graciously softens the hearts, however hard, of his chosen ones and inclines them to believe, but by his just judgment he leaves in their wickedness and hardness of heart those who have not been chosen . . . This is the well-known decision of election and reprobation revealed in God’s Word. This decision the wicked, impure, and unstable distort to their own ruin, . . .

In it’s “Conclusion: Rejection of False Accusations,” the Synod declares, against Protestant Arminian Christians:

. . . the Synod earnestly warns the false accusers themselves to consider how heavy a judgment of God awaits those who give false testimony against so many churches and their confessions, trouble the consciences of the weak, and seek to prejudice the minds of many against the fellowship of true believers.

Note that this is entirely a dispute amongst Protestants. The great majority of Protestants today are Arminian, not Calvinist. They are all condemned by the rhetoric at Dort, and essentially read out of the Christian faith. I have dealt with this inconsistency and hidden assumption in White’s work in great detail, and shown how — by his own stated assumptions — people like Martin Luther, C. S. Lewis, and John Wesley were not, and could not be Christians. That is what his logic entails. Catholics, of course, do not deny that Protestants are Christians, or that they can be saved. See:

“Man-Centered” Sacramentalism: The Remarkable Incoherence of Dr. James White: How Can Martin Luther and St. Augustine Be Christians According to His Definition?

So Catholic dogmatic authority asserts that a person who rejects the Immaculate Conception has been “condemned by his own judgment” and has “suffered shipwreck in the faith.” Calvinist dogmatic authority asserts that people who reject predestination to hell of the reprobate and other tenets of five-point Calvinism (which multiple millions of Protestants reject), are “wicked, impure, and unstable” and do so “to their own ruin.” They are “false accusers” who will be subject to a “heavy judgment of God” if they continue in their ways. What’s the difference? In both cases, a teaching which is disagreed with by many many different kinds of Christians is made obligatory on followers of the professed faith, under penalty of the shipwreck of their faith or souls.

That’s not all. We have the habitual “anathematizing” treatment of the Catholic Church in other Protestant creeds and confessions, reading those who adhere to its doctrine out of the faith. For example, the Westminster Confession of 1646:

CHAPTER XXV. Of the Church*

VI. There is no other head of the Church but the Lord Jesus Christ: nor can the Pope of Rome in any sense be head thereof; but is that Antichrist, that man of sin and son of perdition, that exalteth himself in the Church against Christ, and all that is called God.

Likewise, the Second Helvetic Confession (1566):

CHAPTER XVII Of The Catholic and Holy Church of God,
and of The One Only Head of The Church*
. . . The Roman head does indeed preserve his tyranny and the corruption that has been brought into the Church, and meanwhile he hinders, resists, and with all the strength he can muster cuts off the proper reformation of the Church.

And the Belgic Confession (1561):

Article 29: The Marks of the True Church*
. . . As for the false church, it assigns more authority to itself and its ordinances than to the Word of God; it does not want to subject itself to the yoke of Christ; it does not administer the sacraments as Christ commanded in his Word; it rather adds to them or subtracts from them as it pleases; it bases itself on men, more than on Jesus Christ; it persecutes those who live holy lives according to the Word of God and who rebuke it for its faults, greed, and idolatry. These two churches are easy to recognize and thus to distinguish from each other.

How are these two stances all that different, authority-wise? The Catholic position was that if someone didn’t follow the pope’s teaching with regard to the Immaculate Conception, they were in big spiritual trouble. The anti-Catholic Calvinist position (thankfully, not all Calvinists are anti-Catholic, by any means) is that if someone follows any of the pope’s teachings, or those of the Catholic Church, he is following antichrist, a man who “hinders” and “resists” all proper reformation of the Church, denigrating the Bible, not subjecting himself to Christ, follows men more than Christ, is an idolater, etc.

If he doesn’t accept a doctrine like double predestination (where the damned, or reprobate, never had any choice but to be damned from eternity), he is “wicked” and “impure” and under a heavy “judgment of God.” How is one worse than the other? But of course, Bishop White will never point this out. His goal is to make the Catholic Church look utterly unreasonable, arrogant, and outrageous, while the Protestant sects who make exactly the same kind of statements — about doctrines which are highly-controversial — get a pass.

Coming up to our present time, and the ecumenical joint statement, Evangelicals and Catholics Together (ECT), we again find a vigorous anti-Catholic opposition. For example, prominent anti-Catholic Michael Horton (chairman of the Council of the Alliance of Confessing Evangelicals, and associate professor of historical theology at Westminster Theological Seminary in California), in his critical review of ECT, wrote (and surely White would agree):

If Rome continues to uphold the Decrees and Canons of the Council of Trent, all individual members of that body who follow those decrees (which, in Roman Catholic ecclesiology must include every faithful son or daughter) continue to stand in opposition to the unchanging Gospel of Christ. If they stray from the official teaching of Rome, either from ignorance or in opposition to those statements, they may be regarded as brothers and sisters in Christ.. . . the Roman See persists in its denial of the message that makes the church’s existence both possible and necessary.

. . . We deny that this catholic consensus is sufficient for recognizing the Roman church as a true visible expression of Christ’s body.

. . . We affirm that individual Roman Catholics, who for various reasons do not self-consciously give their assent to the precise definitions of the Roman Magisterium regarding justification, the sole mediation of Christ, the monergistic character of the new birth, and similar evangelical issues, are our brothers and sisters despite Rome’s official position.

[again, this is the condescending notion that a Catholic has to be a lousy, disobedient, dissenting Catholic in order to be a Christian]

James White makes many similar utterances, too numerous to recount. Here is one of the more striking ones:

The issue isn’t the Pope, the issue is the system he represents. The question, at the bottom of the issue, is, “Does Rome promote, or stand against, Christ’s work in this world?” The answer, in light of the “gospel” taught by Rome, is clear in my mind: she stands against the work of Christ. Hence, if we wish to use the term “antichrist,” it is the system that partakes of that spirit due to her opposition to the free grace of Christ.(statement on his own sola Scriptura Internet list: 8-16-96)

Now, again, I ask: why is it unacceptable for the Catholic Church to require its members to believe in the Immaculate Conception (where other Christians vigorously disagree), and give stern warnings for failure to do so, but it is perfectly acceptable for anti-Catholics to make far more extreme statements denigrating the Catholic Church altogether and some one billion Catholics? In each case, others who disagree and the relative state of their souls or “correct belief” are discussed, but the anti-Catholic statements are infinitely more sweeping and condescending. Therefore, what White proves, when this further relevant examination is brought to the table, is the existence of his own glaring double standards (as so often in his anti-Catholic polemics). His rhetoric backfires on him.

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TABLE OF CONTENTS
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Calvinism
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I. REPLIES TO REFORMED BAPTIST GAVIN ORTLUND
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II. REPLIES TO STEVE HAYS
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III. CALVINISM AND ST. AUGUSTINE
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IV. SACRAMENTS: ESPECIALLY BAPTISM AND THE EUCHARIST
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V. PREDESTINATION, SUPRALAPSARIANISM, SOVEREIGNTY, JUDGMENT, UNCONDITIONAL ELECTION
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VI. “TULIP”: TOTAL DEPRAVITY / LIMITED ATONEMENT / IRRESISTIBLE GRACE / PERSEVERANCE OF THE SAINTS
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VII. REPLIES TO FRANCOIS TURRETIN (1623-1687)
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VIII. ZWINGLI AND OTHER CALVINISTIC “REFORMERS” / MARIOLOGY IN PARTICULAR
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IX. ECUMENISM
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X. ICONOCLASM AND INTOLERANCE
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XI. APOLOGETIC METHOD (PRESUPPOSITIONALISM)
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XII. GENERAL / MISCELLANEOUS
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Protestantism (General)
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XIII. THE PROTESTANT WORLDVIEW AND THE SO-CALLED “PROTESTANT REFORMATION” SCRUTINIZED
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XIV. THE PROTESTANT “QUEST FOR UNCERTAINTY” / THE SO-CALLED CATHOLIC “PROBLEM” OF THE “INFALLIBILITY REGRESS”
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XV. PROTESTANTISM: LOGICALLY SELF-DEFEATING / REDUCTION TO SELF-CONTRADICTION
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XVI. DENOMINATIONALISM AND SECTARIANISM 
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XVII. CATHOLICS AND PROTESTANTS
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XVIII. ANGLICANISM
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CALVINISM

I. REPLIES TO REFORMED BAPTIST GAVIN ORTLUND

Reply to Gavin Ortlund’s “Sola Scriptura Defended” [4-27-22]

Augustine & Sola Scriptura (vs. Gavin Ortlund) (+ Part 2) [4-29-22]

Reply to Gavin Ortlund’s “Relics: A Protestant Critique” [5-12-22]

Reply to Gavin Ortlund on Purgatory (+ Part 2) [5-14-22]

Reply to Gavin Ortlund on Praying to the Saints (Including a Reply Regarding the (Blasphemous?) “Excesses of Marian Prayers” from the Protestant Point of View) [5-15-22]

Reply to Baptist Gavin Ortlund’s Critique of Icons [5-19-22]

Reply to Baptist Gavin Ortlund on Baptism [5-20-22]

St. Jerome, Papacy, & Succession (vs. Gavin Ortlund) [1-20-24]

Reply to a Gavin Ortlund Argument Against Infant Baptism [1-26-24]

Reply To Gavin Ortlund’s 6-Minute Sola Scriptura Defense (Including the Biblical Case for Prophets as Inspired and Infallible Authorities Besides Holy Scripture) [1-26-24]

Reply to Gavin Ortlund: St. Ignatius & Bishops (+ St. Polycarp and St. Clement of Rome On Early Church Ecclesiology) [2-1-24]

Dave Armstrong Responds to Gavin Ortlund on Jerome & the Monepiscopacy [30-minute audio presentation Suan Sonna’s YouTube channel, Intellectual Catholicism, on 2-4-24]
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II. REPLIES TO STEVE HAYS

Series: Replies to [Steve] Hays’ “Biblical Calvinism”:

Reply #1: Preliminaries; God “Hardens” Hearts?; Few or Many Saved? [6-12-23]

Reply #2: Sin & God’s Providence; Does God Cause Infirmities & Send “Evil Spirits”?; Examples of God’s Immediate Judgment, Including Absalom; “A Lying Spirit” [6-13-23]

Reply #3: Does God “Micromanage” Every Intent?; God Judges Assyria; Israel Judged in Isaiah 6; Predestined Crucifixion; Acts 13:48: “Ordained to Eternal Life”; Catholic Church & God’s Providence [6-14-23]

Reply #4: Catholicism: The Elect Are Predestined; Reprobate in 1 Peter 2:8; God’s Providence (We Agree!); False Prophet as God’s “Tool”; Good Ol’ Romans 9 [6-15-23]

III. CALVINISM AND ST. AUGUSTINE

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IV. SACRAMENTS: ESPECIALLY BAPTISM AND THE EUCHARIST

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Reply to François Turretin #12: Transubstantiation, Pt. 1 (Does Turretin think biblically in this regard or hyper-rationally and skeptically?) [2-26-25]

Reply to François Turretin #13: Transubstantiation, Pt. 2 (Language of “bread” & “wine” after consecration; transubstantiation and transformation: compendium from the Church fathers) [2-27-25]

Reply to François Turretin #14: Eucharist, Pt. 2 (False premises; unfounded, unbiblical divine “impossibilities”; cessationism; ten types of physical divine presence) [2-28-25]

VIDEO: How Can That Be Jesus? (Turretin & the Eucharist): Calvinist Hyper-Rationalism vs. the Biblical Teaching of Twenty Kinds of God’s Presence [Catholic Bible Highlights, 5-23-25]

Dialogue on Reformed Eucharistic Theology [5-25-25]

Zwingli’s Watered-Down Original Sin and Rejection of Baptismal Regeneration as its Antidote [6-24-25]

V. PREDESTINATION, SUPRALAPSARIANISM, SOVEREIGNTY, JUDGMENT, UNCONDITIONAL ELECTION
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Dialogue on God’s Middle Knowledge & Foreknowledge (vs. Dr. Alexander Pruss) [1997]
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Catholic Predestination, Molinism, & Thomism in a Nutshell [3-27-08]

Bible vs. Double Predestination (No Reprobate Parallels) [4-22-10]

Romans 9: Plausible Non-Calvinist Interpretation [4-22-10]

Is God the Author of Evil? (vs. John Calvin) [Oct. 2012]

Reply to James White’s Exegesis of James 2 in Chapter 20 of His Book, The God Who Justifies [10-9-13]

God “Hardening Hearts”: How Do We Interpret That? [12-18-08; expanded on 1-4-17]

Does God “Want” Men to Sin? Does He “Ordain” Sin? [2-17-10 and 3-16-17]

Luther (Unlike Lutheranism) Taught Double Predestination [1-11-18]

Atheist Ignorance of Christianity: Typical Example (Calvinists make up only some 5% of all Christians, so why do atheists so often think that Calvinist double predestination is the only accepted view in Christian theology?) [12-12-20]

Hays’ Calvinist Prooftexts #1: “Hardening Hearts” [10-23-21]

Hays’ Calvinist Prooftexts #2: Eli’s Sons (1 Sam 2:25) [10-25-21]

The Lord “Bringing Evil” Means Righteous Judgment [10-25-21]

Hays’ Calvinist Prooftexts #3: Absalom’s Judgment [10-27-21]

Hays’ Calvinist Prooftexts #4: Judgment of Assyria [10-27-21]

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VI. “TULIP”: TOTAL DEPRAVITY / LIMITED ATONEMENT / IRRESISTIBLE GRACE / PERSEVERANCE OF THE SAINTS
 
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Total Depravity: Reply to James White: Calvinism and Romans 3:10-11 (“None is Righteous . . . No One Seeks For God”) [4-15-07]

Calvinist Total Depravity: Does Romans 1 Apply to All Men? [4-10-08]

2nd Council of Orange: Sola Gratia vs. Total Depravity [1-5-09]

Dialogue with a Calvinist Regarding Falling Away from Grace or Salvation [7-28-09]

Books by Dave Armstrong: Biblical Catholic Answers for John Calvin [3-11-10]

Gospel = Total Depravity, Limited Atonement, Irresistible Grace? [4-6-10]

Dialogue: Double Predestination, Total Depravity, & Limited Atonement [4-14-10]

Bible vs. the Reformed Doctrine of Total Depravity [October 2010]

Bible vs. the Reformed Doctrine of Limited Atonement [October 2010]

Calvinist Irresistible Grace vs. the Bible [October 2010]

Calvinist Dialogues with Ghost of Plato [10-31-11]

Should We Pray for “All Men” (1 Tim 2:1) or Not? (Bible and Calvin Say Yes; Anti-Catholic Calvinist Ron Van Brenk Sez No) [11-16-11]

St. Francis de Sales: Bible vs. Total Depravity [11-24-11]

A Biblical Critique of Calvinism (Dave Armstrong): Introduction [10-1-12]

Total Depravity and the Evil of the Non-Elect (vs. John Calvin) [10-12-12]

Refutation of Calvinist Total Depravity [10-12-12]

Can Only Regenerate Men Perform Truly Good Works? (vs. John Calvin) [Oct. 2012]

Books by Dave Armstrong: A Biblical Critique of Calvinism [10-23-12]

Calvinist Irresistible Grace: Biblical? [2013]

Exchange on My Humorous Meme About Calvinism (vs. Dr. Glenn Peoples and William Tanksley, Jr.) / How Satirical Humor Works  [1-6-14]

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Good Works and Men, God’s Grace, and Regeneration [National Catholic Register, 8-6-20]
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Eternal Security vs. the Bible [National Catholic Register, 8-23-20]

There Never Will Be a Single Human Being for Whom Christ Did Not Suffer [National Catholic Register, 4-28-21]

Perseverance of the Saints: Reply to a Calvinist [5-17-21]

Westminster vs. Bible #1: Assurance of Salvation [5-19-21]

Limited Atonement: Refutation of James White [9-1-21]

Jesus vs. James White on Who Can be Saved [10-12-21]

Biblical Reasons Why Catholics Don’t Believe in ‘Limited Atonement’ [National Catholic Register, 10-27-21]

More Biblical Reasons Why Catholics Don’t Believe in ‘Limited Atonement’ [National Catholic Register, 10-30-21]

Limited Atonement Biblical Arguments Refuted (33 NT Passages Against Limited Atonement and in Favor of Universal Atonement) [11-21-24]

VIDEO: “Once Saved Always Saved” REFUTED! – [20+verses] [Dave Armstrong & Kenny Burchard at Catholic Bible Highlights, 11-22-24]

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VII. REPLIES TO FRANCOIS TURRETIN (1623-1687)

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Turretin Lied About the Catholic View of Scripture [8-24-22]

Turretin, 1 Timothy 3:15, Infallibility, & Eisegesis [8-24-22]

Self-Interpreting Bible & Protestant Chaos (vs. Turretin) (Including Documentation that St. Basil the Great — Contrary to Turretin’s Claim — Did Not Believe in Sola Scriptura) [8-29-22]

Christ’s Descent Into Hades (vs. Francois Turretin) (Biblical and Patristic Support Examined) [9-1-22]

Francis Turretin: the 2nd Greatest Calvinist Theologian After John Calvin, Endorses “Mother of God” Terminology [Facebook, 3-10-23]

Francis Turretin: the 2nd Greatest Calvinist Theologian After John Calvin, Believed in the Perpetual Virginity of Mary [Facebook, 3-10-23]

Vs. Turretin #1: Communion Of Saints 1 (Preliminaries) [12-21-23]

Vs. Turretin #2: Communion Of Saints 2 (Veneration) [12-22-23]

Vs. Turretin #3: Communion Of Saints 3 (Intercession) [12-23-23]

Vs. Turretin #4: Communion Of Saints 4 (Invocation) [12-26-23]

Vs. Turretin #5: Communion Of Saints 5 (Relics) [12-27-23]

Vs. Turretin #6: Communion Of Saints 6 (Images) [12-27-23]

Vs. Turretin #7: Intercession & Veneration Of Angels [12-29-23]

Vs. Turretin #8: Church #1 (Infallibility 1) [1-4-24]

Vs. Turretin #9: Church #2 (Indefectibility) [1-9-24]

Vs. Turretin #10: Sanctification [5-7-24]

Salvation Through the Eucharist According to Francois Turretin (1623-1687) [Facebook, 2-23-25]

François Turretin and the Debate Over the Lord’s Supper [Vs. Turretin #11: Eucharist, Pt. 1] (Does a traditional literal reading of “this is my body” entail “a thousand absurdities and contradictions”? The book of Job is instructive) [2-24-25]

Reply to François Turretin #12: Transubstantiation, Pt. 1 (Does Turretin think biblically in this regard or hyper-rationally and skeptically?) [2-26-25]

Reply to François Turretin #13: Transubstantiation, Pt. 2 (Language of “bread” & “wine” after consecration; transubstantiation and transformation: compendium from the Church fathers) [2-27-25]

Reply to François Turretin #14: Eucharist, Pt. 2 (False premises; unfounded, unbiblical divine “impossibilities”; cessationism; ten types of physical divine presence) [2-28-25]

VIDEO: How Can That Be Jesus? (Turretin & the Eucharist): Calvinist Hyper-Rationalism vs. the Biblical Teaching of Twenty Kinds of God’s Presence [Catholic Bible Highlights, 5-23-25]

VIDEO: Eucharist = Jesus? Protestant Doubts vs. Biblical Faith [Catholic Bible Highlights, 5-29-25]

VIII. ZWINGLI AND OTHER CALVINISTIC “REFORMERS” / MARIOLOGY IN PARTICULAR

Perpetual Virginity of Mary: Held by All Protestant Reformers [1-27-02]

Luther’s Mariology: Have Catholic Apologists Exaggerated It? (And Has Present-Day Protestantism Maintained the Classical “Reformation” Protestant Mariology?) [4-26-03; rev. 7-15-20]

Protestant “Reformer” Zwingli Denied Original Sin [5-27-06]

“Moderate” Heinrich Bullinger: “Reformation” Anti-Catholicism [1-16-07]

Zwingli: Protestant “Reformer”, Fornicator, & Vow-Breaker [12-20-07]

Zwingli, Bucer, Oecolampadius: Luther & Lutherans Not Christians [1-10-08]

Mary’s Assumption & “Reformer” Heinrich Bullinger [4-6-08]

Mary Mother of God: Protestant Founders Agree (Luther, Calvin, Zwingli, and Bullinger) [10-10-08]

Protestant “Reformer” Martin Bucer: Death for Adulterers! [9-18-09]

Turretin & Bullinger Accepted Mary’s Perpetual Virginity [1-5-10 and 6-1-10]

Zwingli’s Belief in Mary’s Sinlessness [9-30-10]

Mariology of “Reformers” Zwingli & Bullinger [4-28-16]

Zwingli vs. Scripture: Worshiping God Through an Image [6-22-25]

Zwingli vs. John the Baptist & Baptism Re Salvation [6-23-25]

Zwingli’s Watered-Down Original Sin and Rejection of Baptismal Regeneration as its Antidote [6-24-25]

Zwingli Believed in Mary’s Perpetual Virginity [Facebook, 6-24-25]

Zwingli’s Anti-Biblical Silliness Regarding Absolution of Sins [Facebook, 6-24-25]

Intercession of the Saints: Zwingli vs. Scripture (Are We Never to Seek Intercessory Aid from Departed Saints or Even from Righteous People on the Earth?) [6-26-25]

Zwingli’s Blindness Regarding Biblical Merit / The Ten Clearest Biblical Passages on Merit [Facebook, 6-26-25]

Zwingli’s Childish Trashing of the Character of Catholic Theologian and Apologist Johann Eck [Facebook, 6-26-25]

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The Real Diet of Augsburg (1530) vs. the Protestant Myth [3-3-04]

Regensburg (1541) & Poissy (1561): Protestant “Ecumenism”? [4-27-04]

Zwingli, Bucer, Oecolampadius: Luther & Lutherans Not Christians [1-10-08]

John Calvin: Authoritative Council Needed to Unite Protestants [1-18-08]

What I Like About Calvinism and Calvinists [June 2009]

John Calvin Rebukes Lutheran “Beasts” and “Evil”, Calls Luther an Idolater [Facebook, 3-23-10]

Total Depravity and Salvation Outside the Church (vs. a Calvinist) [4-4-17]

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XIII. THE PROTESTANT WORLDVIEW AND THE SO-CALLED “PROTESTANT REFORMATION” SCRUTINIZED 
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My Respect for Protestants / Catholic Ecumenical Principles [2001; addendum: 1-8-03]

Catholic Critique of Anglicanism and the Via Media [11-12-01]

Books by Dave Armstrong: Protestantism: Critical Reflections of an Ecumenical Catholic [May 2003]

Protestantism Was Not a Revolt? [6-2-03]

Clerical Celibacy: Hostile Protestant Commentary & Catholic Replies [2-21-04]

The Revised Fundamentalist Baptist Version (RFBV) [5-18-04]

Early Protestant Hostility Towards Science [7-9-04]

Word “Protestant” Stemmed from Intolerance of Catholic Worship [2-8-06]

Why Write “Bad” Stuff About Protestant “Reformers”? [5-22-06]

James White Deacons-Elders-Bishops Controversy (Original title: “Dumbbells and Deacons: Does No Protestant Denomination Whatsoever Regard Deacons as the Equivalent of Pastors and Elders — or Even Bishops?) [6-16-07]

Catholic “Both/And” vs. Protestant “Either/Or” Dichotomies [2-4-08]

George Washington’s Religious Views [5-23-08]

Erasmus vs. Luther Disputes Documented [Feb. 2009]

Martin Luther, John Calvin, and Philip Melanchthon Wax Astronomical and Geocentric, Oppose Copernicus [2-5-09]

Calling of St. Paul & Church Authority: Dialogue w Calvinist [10-24-11] 

Books by Dave Armstrong: The Quotable Wesley [5-2-12]

Dialogue on the Term, “Protestant Reformation” and Proposed Alternatives Like “Era of Reformations” and “Protestant Revolt” (vs. Anglican historian Dr. Edwin W. Tait) [1-7-14]

Protestant & Catholic Holiness, Miracles, & Reform [9-23-14]

Comments on the Question: “Are Protestants Heretics?” [vigorous Facebook discussion on this topic and about anti-trinitarianism, 10-10-14]

“Who Cares About Early Protestant Mariology?” [10-16-14]

Broad Exchange with a Former Catholic, Bible-Only Protestant (vs. John Hallman)  [4-13-15]

“Why Convince Protestants to Become Catholics?” [4-30-15]

Debunking the Mythical Invisible Church [9-14-15]

Arbitrary Bias in the NIV Against “Tradition” [9-18-15]

“Armstrong vs. Geisler” (Series of Ten Mini-Debates) [Facebook, 3-2-17]

Why Do Atheists Almost Always Prefer Protestantism to Catholicism? [Facebook, 10-25-17]

Critique of Ten Exaggerated Claims of the “Reformation” [10-31-17; its 500th anniversary date]

Why Not Become a Protestant, Due to the Sex Scandals? [3-7-19]

XIV. THE PROTESTANT “QUEST FOR UNCERTAINTY” / THE SO-CALLED CATHOLIC “PROBLEM” OF THE “INFALLIBILITY REGRESS”

Dialogue on the Logic of Catholic Infallible Authority [6-4-96]

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XV. PROTESTANTISM: LOGICALLY SELF-DEFEATING / REDUCTION TO SELF-CONTRADICTION
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XVI. DENOMINATIONALISM AND SECTARIANISM 
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Denominationalism and Sectarianism: An Anti-Biblical Scandal [1996]

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“Absurd” Protestant Divisions: Calvin’s Revealing Lament to Melanchthon [2-6-06]

Philip Melanchthon’s Agony Over Protestant Sectarianism [2-8-06]

Bible vs. Denominationalism and Against “Primary / Secondary” Doctrines [8-18-06]

Melanchthon in 1530 Longed for Return of Catholic Bishops [11-30-07]

John Calvin: Authoritative Council Needed to Unite Protestants [1-18-08]

Unbridled Sectarianism, Sola Scriptura, Luther, & Calvin [6-24-09]

Short Dialogue with a Presbyterian and a Baptist on the Definition of “Fundamentalist” [Facebook, 1-7-10]

John Calvin Rebukes Lutheran “Beasts” and “Evil”, Calls Luther an Idolater [Facebook, 3-23-10]

Melanchthon’s Agonized Tears Over Early Protestant Divisions [6-15-11; additions on 10-11-17]

Bible on Submission to Church & Apostolic Tradition / Biblical Condemnation of the Rebellious & Schismatic Aspects of the Protestant Revolt [8-27-11]

Early Protestant “Unity”: Calvin vs. Westphal vs. Luther [11-6-11]

Bishop Bossuet on the Schismatic Nature and Internal Difficulties of Protestantism [Facebook, 1-4-12]

33,000 [?] Denominations & “Thankful” James White [2-20-16]

Church Authority vs. Rampant Sectarianism [9-22-16]

Orthodoxy and Heresy: Biblical Notions? [9-23-16]

“Reply to Calvin” #4: “Primary” & “Secondary” Doctrines [4-3-17]

Catholicism is True and Denominationalism is Anti-Biblical [National Catholic Register, 6-27-17]

Sectarianism & Denominationalism: Reply to Calvin #6 [12-19-18]

Does Sola Scriptura Create Chaos? (vs. Steve Hays) [5-15-20]

Unbiblical Denominations (vs. Lucas Banzoli) [6-9-22]

Jason Engwer’s Anti-Papalism Refutes Denominationalism [8-2-22]

Has Lutheranism Avoided Denominationalism? (Widespread Lutheran Compromise & Caving on Abortion & Same-Sex “Marriage”) [8-10-22]

Martin Luther vs. Sectarianism and Fanaticism [10-26-22]

How Steve Hays Squared Jesus’ Prayer for Unity in John 17 with Denominationalism [Facebook, 6-2-23]

“Catholic Verses” #5: Denominationalism (Including “Straight Talk” on the Catholic and Protestant Inquisitions) [10-27-23]

Catholicism & Non-Catholic Salvation (Vs. Gavin Ortlund) + How Early Protestants Widely Damned Other Protestants Who Held Different Theological Views [2-9-24]

Early Protestant Idyllic Unity & Catholicity (1525-1563): One Big Happy and Tolerant Family [Facebook, 2-10-24]

Denominationalism & The Bible: Reply To Gavin Ortlund (+ Does the New Testament Present an Ecclesiology of “The Church”?) [2-27-24]

“Ecclesialism” vs. Sola Scriptura (vs. “The Other Paul”) [3-25-24]

Calvin & Cranmer: Councils Necessary For Doctrinal Unity [5-8-24]

Luther: “As Many Sects And Creeds As Heads” (James Swan Misses the Forest for the Trees / Calvin & Melanchthon Embarrassed & Scandalized by Protestant Sectarianism) [6-17-24]

Martin Luther Classified Zwingli, Karlstadt, & Oecolampadius as “Heathen” Non-Christians with “hyper-bedeviled heart[s]” etc. [Facebook, 7-11-24]

Reply to Lucas Banzoli’s 30 “Common” (?) Protestant Views [4-24-25]

DOCUMENTARY: Civil War Chaos: Luther vs. Other Protestant Leaders, Etc. [Lux Veritatis, 5-4-25]

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XVII. CATHOLICS AND PROTESTANTS 

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TV Interview: On Catholicism, Over Against Protestantism (Transcript) (also, listen to the audio; see #5) [5-1-99]

My Respect for Protestants / Catholic Ecumenical Principles [2001; addendum: 1-8-03]

Word “Protestant” Stemmed from Intolerance of Catholic Worship [2-8-06]

The Catholic “Both/And” vs. the Protestant “Either/Or” Dichotomous Mindset [2-4-08]

On the Definition of “Evangelical” [3-20-08]

Dialogue: Definition of “Christian” (vs. Reformed Pastor) (+ Did Trent Anathematize all Protestants?) [6-5-10]

Reply to Robin Phillips’ Why I’m Not a Catholic [1-31-12]

Michael Voris’ Anti-Protestant Rhetoric [8-8-13]

Should Catholics Try to Persuade Protestants? [5-25-16]

“Armstrong vs. Geisler” (Series of Ten Mini-Debates) [Facebook, 3-2-17]

Critique of Ten Exaggerated Claims of the “Reformation” [10-31-17; its 500th anniversary date]

Response to All-Over-the-Ballpark Criticisms of my National Catholic Register Article, “Here’s Proof That Not Every Protestant Doctrine is Biblical” [Facebook, 3-9-18]

Why Not Become a Protestant, Due to the Sex Scandals? [3-7-19]

Series of Replies to Theologian and Apologist Norman Geisler

#1: “Apocrypha” 1: Propheticity [7-3-25]

#2: “Apocrypha” 2: NT Citations (Including Related Discussion on Confused, Baffled Protestant Exegesis of Matthew 2:23: “He shall be called a Nazarene”) [7-7-25]

#3: “Apocrypha” 3: Septuagint [7-7-25]

#4: “Apocrypha” 4: Early Church [7-8-25]

#5: “Apocrypha” 5: Fathers (Also Including Analysis of Josephus’ and Philo’s Views, Jewish Scholars at Jamnia [c. AD 90], and the Qumran Community) [7-9-25]

#6: Sola Scriptura 1 (Including Inscripturation; 2 Timothy 3:16; Is Only the Bible Inspired?; Oral Torah) [7-11-25]

#7: Sola Scriptura 2 (Fathers) [7-15-25]

#8: Papal Infallibility (Includes Anti-Infallibilist George Salmon; “Vicar of Christ”; “Holy Father”; “Supreme Pontiff”; Is Galileo a Catholic Difficulty?) [7-16-25]

#9: “Faith Alone” 1 (Including Luther’s Qualified “Faith Alone”; Catholic Soteriology Accurately Presented; Meritorious Works; Bible vs. “Faith Alone”) [7-17-25]

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XVIII. ANGLICANISM

Replies to Anglican E. B. Pusey

#1: Agreement on Ecumenism and Various Doctrines; Sola Scriptura [1-20-25]

#2: Mary’s Intercession Analogous to “The prayer of a righteous man has great power in its effects” (James 5:16) [1-23-25]

#3: Admirable Ecumenical Sentiments; Mary as Our “Hope” & “Refuge” & “Comfort”; Must We Always Know of Mary’s Co-Mediation? [1-26-25]

#4: Infallible Ecumenical Councils; Nature of Saints’ Intercession [1-29-25]

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Apostolic Tradition: 28 Passages in Paul’s Epistles (Including Incisive Commentary from the Anglican Tractarian John Keble: 1792-1866) [1-29-25]

DOCUMENTARY15 “Roman Catholic” Views of C. S. Lewis [Lux Veritatis, 5-20-25]

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Footsteps that Echo Forever: My Holy Land Pilgrimage(Nov. 2014, 165 pages)

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TABLE OF CONTENTS
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I. DIALOGUES WITH JEWISH APOLOGIST MICHAEL J. ALTER  ON JESUS’ RESURRECTION AND ALLEGED NEW TESTAMENT “CONTRADICTIONS”
II. THE MESSIAH IN THE OLD TESTAMENT
III. RELATIONSHIP OF OLD AND NEW COVENANTS / JEWS AND CHRISTIANS / DEVELOPMENT OF DOCTRINE: JUDAISM TO CHRISTIANITY
IV. MY PILGRIMAGE TO ISRAEL (2014)
V. GENESIS
VI. ADAM AND EVE AND CAIN / GARDEN OF EDEN
VII. NOAH AND THE FLOOD
VIII. ABRAHAM, ISAAC, JACOB, AND JOSEPH (PATRIARCHS) / HEBREW BONDAGE IN EGYPT
IX. MOSES AND THE EXODUS
X. JOSHUA AND THE CONQUEST OF CANAAN / SAMSON / ERA OF THE JUDGES
XI. SAUL, DAVID, AND SOLOMON / KINGDOMS OF JUDAH AND ISRAEL
XII. EZRA, NEHEMIAH, AND JOB
XIII. ANCIENT ISRAEL’S ENEMIES
XIV. THE PROPHETS
XV. OLD TESTAMENT: DOCTRINE OF GOD / YHWH
XVI. OLD TESTAMENT: GENERAL AND MISCELLANEOUS
XVII. ISRAEL AND THE PALESTINIANS 
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I. DIALOGUES WITH JEWISH APOLOGIST MICHAEL J. ALTER  ON JESUS’ RESURRECTION AND ALLEGED NEW TESTAMENT “CONTRADICTIONS”
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II. THE MESSIAH IN THE OLD TESTAMENT

The Messiah: Jewish / Old Testament Conceptions [1982; revised somewhat on 2-19-00]
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III. RELATIONSHIP OF OLD AND NEW COVENANTS / JEWS AND CHRISTIANS / DEVELOPMENT OF DOCTRINE: JUDAISM TO CHRISTIANITY
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Apostles and Synagogue and Temple Worship [3-25-07; slight editing and minor additions on 8-8-16]
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Jewish 1st Century Belief in Purgatory (Paul Hoffer) [9-20-11]
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Why is Melchizedek So Important? [National Catholic Register, 1-15-18]
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Did Jesus Heal and Preach to Only Jews? No! [National Catholic Register, 7-19-20]
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IV. MY PILGRIMAGE TO ISRAEL (2014)
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Signs in Jerusalem: How God Can Speak to You Through ‘Coincidence’ [my visit to the Pool of Siloam, Seton Magazine, 12-17-14]
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I Was Blessed to Visit Bethlehem in 2014. What Joy! [National Catholic Register, 12-31-17; originally 12-26-14]
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Visiting Golgotha in Jerusalem is a Sublime Experience [National Catholic Register, 3-21-18]
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My visit to the Holy Land in 2014 and my book chronicling it, Footsteps That Echo Forever [35-minute interview with John Benko on The 4 Persons Podcast, 20 March 2025]
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V. GENESIS
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Biblical Flat Earth (?) Cosmology: Dialogue w Atheist (vs. Matthew Green) [9-11-06]

Flat Earth: Biblical Teaching? (vs. Ed Babinski) [9-17-06]

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Seidensticker Folly #14: Something Rather Than Nothing [9-3-18]

Orthodox Interpretation of Genesis and the Serpent [National Catholic Register, 11-19-18]

Scripture, Science, Genesis, & Evolutionary Theory: Mini-Dialogue with an Atheist [8-14-18; rev. 2-18-19]

Seidensticker Folly #38: Eternal Universe vs. an Eternal God [4-16-20]

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Seidensticker Folly #73: Philosophy & “Who Created God?” [7-12-21]

Genesis 10 “Table of Nations”: Authentic History [8-25-21]

Pearce’s Potshots #54: Tower of Babel; Who’s the “Idiot”? [11-24-21]

Table of Nations (Gen 10), Interpretation, & History [11-27-21]

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Linguistic Confusion and the Tower of Babel [National Catholic Register, 6-21-22]
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DOCUMENTARY: Science & the Search for the Garden of Eden [see also the written transcript] [Lux Veritatis, 5-10-25]
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Old Earth, Flood Geology, Local Flood, & Uniformitarianism (vs. Kevin Rice) [5-25-04; many defunct links removed and new ones added: 5-10-17]

Adam & Eve, Cain, Abel, & Noah: Historical Figures [2-20-08]

Noah’s Flood and Catholicism: Important Basic Facts [8-18-15]

Do Carnivores on the Ark Disprove Christianity? [9-10-15]

New Testament Evidence for Noah’s Existence [National Catholic Register, 3-11-18]

Seidensticker Folly #49: Noah & 2 or 7 Pairs of Animals [9-7-20]

Pearce’s Potshots #36: Noah’s Flood: 40 or 150 Days or Neither? [7-1-21]

Pearce’s Potshots #37: Length of Noah’s Flood Redux [7-2-21]

Local Flood & Atheist Ignorance of Christian Thought [7-2-21]

Pearce’s Potshots #38: Chiasmus & “Redundancy” in Flood Stories (Also, a Summary Statement on Catholics and the Documentary Hypothesis) [7-4-21]

Local Mesopotamian Flood: An Apologia [7-9-21]

Pearce’s Potshots #47: Mockery of a Local Flood (+ Striking Analogies Between the Biblical Flood and the Great Mississippi Flood of 1927) [9-30-21]

Pearce’s Potshots #48: Flood of Irrationality & Cowardice [10-1-21]

Noah’s Flood: Not Anthropologically Universal + Miscellany [10-5-21]

Debate: Historical Local Flood & Biblical Hyperbole [11-12-21]

Pearce Pablum #72: Flood: 25 Criticisms & Non Sequiturs [3-8-22]

Noah’s Ark: Josephus, Earlier Historians, & Church Fathers (Early Witnesses of the Ark Resting on Jabel [Mt.] Judi) [3-16-22]

Biblical Size of Noah’s Ark: Literal or Symbolic? [3-16-22]

Atheist Jonathan MS Pearce’s Straw Man Global Flood [8-30-22]

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Why is Melchizedek So Important? [National Catholic Register, 1-15-18]
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Abraham and Ongoing Justification by Faith and Works [National Catholic Register, 9-19-23]
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Seidensticker Folly #19: Torah & OT Teach Polytheism? [9-18-18]

C. S. Lewis Roundly Mocked the Documentary Hypothesis [10-6-19]

Ward’s Whoppers #7-8: “God of Abraham…” / Passover [5-18-20]

Ward’s Whoppers #9-10: Parting the Red Sea / “Foreigners” [5-18-20]

Ward’s Whoppers #11-12: Ten Commandments Issues [5-19-20]

Moses & Aaron & Their Staff(s): Biblical Contradictions? (vs. Dr. Steven DiMattei) [11-21-20]

Golden Calf & Cherubim: Biblical Contradiction? (vs. Dr. Steven DiMattei) [11-23-20]

A Bible Puzzle About the Staff of Moses and Aaron [National Catholic Register, 1-14-21]

Pearce’s Potshots #30: Passover Disproves God’s Omniscience? [5-27-21]

Pearce’s Potshots #33: No Philistines in Moses’ Time? [6-3-21]

Did Moses Exist? No Absolute Proof, But Strong Evidence (Pearce’s Potshots #35, in Which Our Brave Hero Classifies Moses as “a Mythological Figure” and I Reply!) [6-14-21]

Using the Bible to Debunk the Bible Debunkers (Is the Mention of ‘Pitch’ in Exodus an Anachronism?) [National Catholic Register, 6-30-21]

Pearce’s Potshots #38: Chiasmus & “Redundancy” in Flood Stories (Also, a Summary Statement on Catholics and the Documentary Hypothesis) [7-4-21]

Archaeology, Ancient Hebrew, & a Written Pentateuch (+ a Plausible Scenario for Moses Gaining Knowledge of Hittite Legal Treaties in His Egyptian Official Duties) [7-31-21]

In Search of the Real Mt. Sinai (Fascinating Topographical and Biblical Factors Closely Examined) [8-16-21]

Acacia, Ark of the Covenant, & Biblical Accuracy [8-24-21]

The Tabernacle: Egyptian & Near Eastern Precursors (Archaeology Entirely Backs Up the Extraordinary Accuracy of Holy Scripture Yet Again) [9-8-21]

Science, Hebrews and a Bevy of Quail [National Catholic Register, 11-14-21]
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What Archaeology Tells Us About Joshua’s Conquest [National Catholic Register, 7-8-21]
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Archaeology, Solomon and the Queen of Sheba [National Catholic Register, 6-2-23]
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Archaeology and King Solomon’s Mines [National Catholic Register, 6-29-23]
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Was King David Mythical or Historical? [National Catholic Register, 7-24-23]
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VIDEO: How Tall Was Goliath? The Truth Revealed! [Lux Veritatis, 6-10-25]
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Did God Raise Jonah from the Dead? [National Catholic Register, 4-20-23]
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Israel as God’s Agent of Judgment [9-28-14]

Does God Ever Judge People by Sending Disease? [10-30-17]

Seidensticker Folly #10: Slavery in the Old Testament [8-20-18]

Seidensticker Folly #12: God Likes Child Sacrifice? Huh?! [8-21-18]

Seidensticker Folly #17: “to the third and fourth generations”? [9-11-18]

Does God Punish to the Fourth Generation? [National Catholic Register, 10-1-18]

Did God Immorally “Murder” King David’s Innocent Child? (God’s Providence and Permissive Will, and Hebrew Non-Literal Anthropomorphism) [5-6-19]

Old Testament Sacrifices: Killing Animals to be Saved? [8-17-19]

David Madison vs. Paul and Romans #9: Chapter 9 (“Hardening Hearts” and Hebrew “Block Logic”) [8-30-19]

Salvation and Eternal Afterlife in the Old Testament [8-31-19]

Loftus Atheist Error #9: Bible Espouses Mythical Animals? [9-10-19]

Salvation and Immortality Are Not Just New Testament Ideas [National Catholic Register, 9-23-19]

The Bible and Mythical Animals[National Catholic Register, 10-9-19]

The Bible is Not “Anti-Scientific,” as Skeptics Claim [National Catholic Register, 10-23-19]

“Why Did God Kill 70,000 Israelites for David’s Sin?” [4-13-20]

Ward’s Whoppers #14: Who Caused Job’s Suffering? [5-20-20]

Ward’s Whoppers #17-21: Proverbs Allow of Exceptions [5-21-20]

Seidensticker Folly #54: “Neighbor” in OT = Jews Only? [9-12-20]

Dialogue: Purgatory & 2 Maccabees 12:39-45 [11-8-20]

God in Heaven & in His Temple: Contradiction? (vs. Dr. Steven DiMattei) [11-23-20]

Jesus the “Nazarene”: Did Matthew Make Up a “Prophecy”? (Reply to Jonathan M. S. Pearce from the Blog, A Tippling Philosopher / Oral Traditions and Possible Lost Old Testament Books Referred to in the Bible) [12-17-20]

Dual Fulfillment of Prophecy & the Virgin Birth (vs. JMS Pearce) [12-18-20]

Pearce’s Potshots #27: Anachronistic “Israelites”? [5-25-21]

Camels Help Bible Readers Get Over the Hump of Bible Skepticism [National Catholic Register, 7-21-21]

Archaeology, Ancient Hebrew, & a Written Pentateuch (+ a Plausible Scenario for Moses Gaining Knowledge of Hittite Legal Treaties in His Egyptian Official Duties) [7-31-21]

Archaeology: Biblical Maximalism vs. Minimalism (+ Dates of the Patriarchs and Other Major Events and People in the Old Testament) [9-9-21]

Pearce’s Potshots #55: “3” in the Bible & Literature [12-1-21]

Pearce’s Potshots #67: Camels Make an Ass of a Man [3-1-22]

Timeline of the Patriarchs: A Summary [Facebook, 9-28-22]

Books by Dave Armstrong: The Word Set in Stone: How Archaeology, Science, and History Back Up the Bible [1-24-23]

Introduction for My Book: The Word Set in Stone: How Archaeology, Science, and History Back up the Bible + Near Eastern Archaeological Periods and Timeline of the Patriarchs [1-24-23]

Archaeology & a Proto-Hebrew Language in 1800 BC [1-31-23]

15 Archaeological Proofs of Old Testament Accuracy (short summary points from the book, The Word Set in Stone) [National Catholic Register, 3-23-23]

The Word Set in Stone: “Volume Two”: More Evidence of Archaeology, Science, and History Backing Up the Bible (free book with 100 sections) [5-25-23]

Bp. Barron’s Word on Fire Bible (The Pentateuch) [7-6-23]

Book of Judith: History, Allegory, Or Aspects of Both? [Facebook, 11-10-23]

XVII. ISRAEL AND THE PALESTINIANS 
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Discussion on Israeli-Gaza Strip Conflict of July 2014 [Facebook, 7-23-14]

Dialogue on Israeli-Palestinian Relations [with Alex Brittain, Facebook, 3-18-15]

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Four doctors of the Church: left to right: St. Augustine, Pope St. Gregory the Great, St. Jerome, and St. Ambrose (1516), by Pier Francesco Sacchi (c. 1485–1528) [pubic domain / Wikimedia Commons]

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TABLE OF CONTENTS
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I. MY THREE BOOKS ON THE CHURCH FATHERS

II. GENERAL AND MISCELLANEOUS

III. PROTESTANTISM AND THE FATHERS 

IV. ST. ATHANASIUS

V. ST. AUGUSTINE

VI. BAPTISM AND BAPTISMAL REGENERATION

VII. BIBLE / TRADITION / SOLA SCRIPTURA / PERSPICUITY / RULE OF FAITH
VIII. CANON OF SCRIPTURE / DEUTEROCANONICAL BOOKS
IX. CHRISTMAS
X. CHRISTOLOGY / HOLY TRINITY / GOD THE FATHER
XI. CHURCH / ECCLESIOLOGY / APOSTOLIC SUCCESSION
XII. CONTRACEPTION
XIII. DEVELOPMENT OF DOCTRINE
XIV. ESCHATOLOGY / LAST THINGS
XV. EUCHARIST / TRANSUBSTANTIATION / SACRIFICE OF THE MASS

XVI. IMAGES, RELIGIOUS: USE AND VENERATION OF

XVII. LITURGY

XVIII. MARRIAGE, DIVORCE, AND ANNULMENTS
XIX. MARY, THE BLESSED VIRGIN
XX. PAPACY AND INFALLIBILITY
XXI. PURGATORY
XXII. SACRAMENTS AND SACRAMENTALISM
XXIII. SAINTS AND ANGELS: INVOCATION, INTERCESSION, AND VENERATION OF
XXIV. SALVATION / JUSTIFICATION / “FAITH ALONE” /  SOTERIOLOGY
XXV. SCIENCE
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I. MY THREE BOOKS ON THE CHURCH FATHERS

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Patristic Bible Commentary [verse-by verse references: great resource!]
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Is “Mother Earth” a Catholic Concept (Church Fathers)? (guest post by Rosemarie Scott) [12-17-19]
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The “Unanimous Consent” of the Church Fathers [Jimmy Akin, National Catholic Register, 8-18-18]
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Dialogue w Lutheran Pastor on the Protestant Revolt (. . . with special emphasis on the beliefs of the Church Fathers: were they were more “Catholic” or “Protestant”?) [3-27-12; edited with links added on 1-8-20]

Reply to Ken Temple’s Extensive (Anti-Catholic) “Review” of Rod Bennett’s Book, Four Witnesses: Part I: The Amazon Review (+ Part II / Part III) [4-27-14]

Salesian Apologetics #5: Authority of Church Fathers [2-6-20]

Jerusalem Council & James, Bishop Of Jerusalem: The Ambivalence and Inconsistencies of Protestant Thought on the Earliest “Monarchical” Bishops [1-30-24]

Mary’s Sinlessness & the Fathers (vs. Javier Perdomo) . . . Including a Turn the Tables Argument Regarding Protestant Doctrines Virtually Nonexistent in the Fathers (Sola Scriptura, Sola Fide) [2-5-25]

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14 Proofs That St. Athanasius Was 100% Catholic [National Catholic Register, 6-4-20]
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Early Development of the Papacy: Random Reflections (includes St. Augustine’s views) [2-26-02]
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Purgatory: Refutation of James White (1 Corinthians 3:10-15)  (includes lengthy citations of St. Augustine) [3-3-07]
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Introduction to The Quotable Augustine (edited by Dave Armstrong) [8-9-12]
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Did St. Augustine Accept All Seven Sacraments? [National Catholic Register, 11-15-17]
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13 Church Fathers Defend the Catholic Teaching on Baptism [National Catholic Register, 8-26-24]
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Born Again: Baptism in the Early Fathers (Evangelical Catholic Apologetics)
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Church Fathers on Baptism (Armchair Theologian; Lutheran site)
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The Church Fathers on Baptismal Regeneration (Bryan Cross, Called to Communion)
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Church Fathers and Sola Scriptura [originally July 2003; somewhat modified condensation: 4-5-17]
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Chrysostom & Irenaeus: Sola Scripturists? (vs. David T. King) [4-20-07]
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Papias (c. 60-c. 130) & the Rule of Faith (vs. Jason Engwer) [1-18-10]
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Vs. James White #16: St. Basil Held to Sola Scriptura? [11-19-19]

Dialogue on St. John Chrysostom & Sola Scriptura (Includes a Discussion of the Proper Definition of Sola Scriptura) [2-23-21]

Gregory Nazianzen (d. 389) vs. Sola Scriptura as the Rule of Faith [2-25-21]

Hilary of Poitiers (d. 367) vs. Sola Scriptura as the Rule of Faith [2-26-21]

Gregory the Great vs. Sola Scriptura as the Rule of Faith [3-1-21]

Cyril of Alexandria (d. 444) vs. Sola Scriptura as the Rule of Faith [3-1-21]

Rufinus (d. 411) vs. Sola Scriptura as the Rule of Faith [3-2-21]

John Cassian (d. 435) vs. Sola Scriptura [3-3-21]

Origen & the Rule of Faith (vs. “Turretinfan”) [12-2-21]

St. Ambrose (c. 340-397) vs. Sola Scriptura [12-18-21]

Papias (c. 60-c. 130) vs. Sola Scriptura [12-19-21]

Clement of Rome (d. 99) vs. Sola Scriptura [12-20-21]

Ignatius of Antioch (d. c. 117) vs. Sola Scriptura [12-21-21]

Polycarp (69-155) vs. Sola Scriptura [12-21-21]

Tertullian (c. 155-c. 220) vs. Sola Scriptura [12-23-21]

Cyprian (c. 210-258) vs. Sola Scriptura [12-23-21]

Church Fathers vs. Sola Scriptura (Compendium) [12-26-21]

Augustine & Sola Scriptura (vs. Gavin Ortlund) [4-28-22]

Augustine & Sola Scriptura, Pt. 2 (vs. Gavin Ortlund) [4-29-22]

Banzoli Sez Origen & Tertullian are Sola Scripturists [5-31-22]

Justin Martyr & Sola Scriptura (vs. Lucas Banzoli) [6-1-22]

A Lot of Patristic Problems with Sola Scriptura [Facebook, 8-17-22]

Self-Interpreting Bible & Protestant Chaos (vs. Turretin): Including Documentation that St. Basil the Great — Contrary to Turretin’s Claim — Did Not Believe in Sola Scriptura [8-29-22]

Did Athanasius Accept Sola Scriptura? (vs. Bruno Lima) [10-14-22]

St. Athanasius Was Catholic — He Knew Sola Scriptura Was False [National Catholic Register, 10-20-22]

St. Ignatius, Bishops, & the Rule of Faith (vs. T.F. Kauffman) [7-14-23]

“Catholic Verses” #3: Tradition, Pt. 1 (Including the Church Fathers’ Opinion Regarding Authoritative Apostolic Oral Tradition) [10-26-23]

Reply to a “Reformation Day” Lutheran Sermon [Vs. Nathan Rinne] (Including St. Augustine’s View on the Rule of Faith & the Perspicuity of Scripture; Luther & Lutherans’ Belief in Falling Away) [10-31-23]

Bible / Faith “Alone” Vs. The Fathers (Vs. Gavin Ortlund) [2-13-24]

Church Fathers & Sola Scriptura: Reply To James White Claims: Myths Regarding Cyprian, Augustine, Basil the Great, John Chrysostom, Cyril of Jerusalem, Athanasius [3-16-24]

Epistle to Diognetus (c. 130-180) vs. Sola Scriptura [4-12-24]

David T. King: No Father Believed in an Infallible Church [6-18-24]

Robert Gagnon: Fathers Accepted Sola Scriptura (?) (St. Thomas Aquinas Didn’t Believe in it, Either. Nice Try . . .) [9-16-24]

St. Augustine & Extrabiblical Infallibility [11-13-24]

Is Scripture Totally Clear? (vs. Anglican Stearns #2) + the Church Fathers (Especially St. Augustine) on the Question of the Perspicuity (Clearness in the Main) of Scripture [3-13-25]

Vs. Geisler on Catholicism #7: Sola Scriptura 2 (Fathers) [7-15-25]

VIII. CANON OF SCRIPTURE / DEUTEROCANONICAL BOOKS

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Filioque: Catholic-Orthodox Dialogue (William Klimon) [July 1997]
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Contraception: Early Church Teaching (William Klimon) [1998]
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St. Augustine’s Belief in the Substantial Real Presence [1996]

Patristic Eucharistic Doctrine: Nine Protestant Scholars [12-1-96]

John Calvin and St. Cyril of Jerusalem: Comparative Eucharistic Theology [6-14-04]

Dialogue on Calvin’s & Patristic Eucharistic Theology (Especially St. Cyril of Jerusalem’s Theology of the Eucharist) [6-19-04]

Transubstantiation & Church History: Dialogue w Lutheran [2-12-05; abridged on 10-23-18]

Eucharistic Sacrifice: The Witness of the Church Fathers [9-12-05]

Sacrifice of the Mass: Reflections on Theology & Patristics [9-22-05]

Development of Sacrifice of the Mass: Dialogue w Lutheran [9-22-05]

Sacrifice of the Mass / Cyprian’s Ecclesiology (vs. Calvin #11) [5-19-09]

Sacramentalism & Ex Opere Operato (vs. Calvin #37) [10-21-09]

Transubstantiation: Bible & the Fathers (vs. Calvin #42) [24-25 November 2009]

Eucharist: Rationalism, Nestorianism, & Docetism (vs. Calvin #44) [11-30-09]

Bizarre “Eucharistic Christology” vs. Tertullian (vs. Calvin #45) [12-1-09]

Church Fathers and the Sacrifice of the Mass (Thoroughly Catholic!) [12-11-09]

St. Augustine’s Eucharistic Doctrine and Protestant “Co-Opting” [9-25-10]

St. Augustine’s Eucharistic Doctrine: Simultaneous Assertion of Realism and Symbolism [2-17-11]

“Re-Presentation” vs. “Re-Sacrifice” in the Mass: Doctrinal History [4-4-18]

Did Pope Gelasius (r. 492-496) Deny Transubstantiation? [3-24-21]

St. Ignatius & Eucharistic Real Presence (vs. Lucas Banzoli) [9-12-22]

Justin Martyr, Real Presence, & Eucharistic Sacrifice (vs. Lucas Banzoli) [9-13-22]

Lucas Banzoli Misrepresents Chrysostom’s Eucharistic Theology (+ An Overview of St. John Chrysostom’s Catholic View of the Eucharistic Sacrifice) [9-14-22]

Tertullian’s Eucharistic Theology: Lucas Banzoli vs. J.N.D. Kelly [9-15-22]

Martin Luther Was Extraordinarily Ignorant Regarding the Church Fathers’ Espousal of Transubstantiation [Facebook, 8-20-24]

Response to a Lutheran Apologetic (Pr. Will Weedon) (Featuring Liturgy and the Sacrifice of the Mass in the Church Fathers) [11-11-24]

Reply to François Turretin #13: Transubstantiation, Pt. 2 (Language of “bread” & “wine” after consecration; transubstantiation and transformation: compendium from the Church fathers) [2-27-25]

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What Saint Augustine, Bishop, Saint and Doctor of the Catholic Church Actually Held Pertaining to Transubstantiation: A Response to Turretinfan (+ Part Two) [Paul Hoffer, 8-20-11]

XVI. IMAGES, RELIGIOUS: USE AND VENERATION OF

Church Fathers & Images: No Evidence? (vs. Gavin Ortlund) [3-18-24]

XVII. LITURGY

Apologia for the New (Pauline) Mass: With Massive Traditional Documentation, Over Against its Detractors / Summary of Vatican II on Liturgical Reform [6-18-08]

Holy Communion in the Hand (Norm till 500-900 AD) (+ vigorous Facebook discussion) [9-3-15; some additions on 3-13-20]

St. Augustine’s Communion (Standing, in the Hand) [10-4-15]

Communion in the Hand: Reactionaries vs. St. Cyril [3-15-20]

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Portrait of Martin Luther (1528), by Lucas Cranach the Elder (1472-1553) [public domain / Wikimedia Commons]
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[For those who wrongly think I am some sort of “Luther-hater” or “Luther-basher”, beyond disagreeing with his theology, and can never praise or agree with him: in many of the papers below (well beyond a score by now: see the appropriate sections below), I defend Luther (as well as, by the way, John Calvin) against myths and bum raps, cite him in agreement, or take a fairly neutral stance towards his opinion.
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I wrote in a paper dated March 2000: “I (like many Catholics) do admire him in certain ways. I like his passion and boldness and apparent sincerity and good intentions (though thoroughly deluded and wrongheaded). He had a great devotion to the Virgin Mary and to the Eucharist.” And in February 2001, I posted on the Catholic Convert Message Board: “I have never maintained that Luther was ‘evil’ or essentially a ‘bad’ man, nor have I ever denied his good intentions . . . No one can find those sentiments on my website.”]
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For more of my opinion on Martin Luther, see the Introduction to my book, Martin Luther: Catholic Critical Analysis and Praise. A full third of that book is devoted to areas where Catholics and Luther substantially agree.
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Also, my book,  The “Catholic” Luther : An Ecumenical Collection of His “Traditional” Utterances, (see the Introduction) is devoted to his statements that Catholics would agree with. 
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I. WHY LUTHER SEPARATED FROM THE CHURCH / CAUSES OF THE PROTESTANT REVOLT (aka “REFORMATION”)
II. LUTHER’S VIEWS OF THE CATHOLIC CHURCH HEADED BY THE POPE, TRADITION, AND THE CHURCH FATHERS
III. LUTHER’S ARBITRARY CLAIMS TO ECCLESIASTICAL AUTHORITY / ECCLESIOLOGY
IV. LUTHER’S DISGUST AND AGONY OVER PROTESTANT SECTARIANISM AND MORAL LAXITY
V. ERASMUS-LUTHER CONTROVERSY (REASON VS. RELENTLESS RHETORIC AND INSULTS)
VI. SOTERIOLOGY (THEOLOGY OF SALVATION, JUSTIFICATION, & SANCTIFICATION) / SOLA FIDE
VII. CHRISTOLOGY
VIII. BAPTISM AND OTHER SACRAMENTS
IX. THE EUCHARIST
X. PURGATORY, PRAYERS FOR THE DEAD, AND THE COMMUNION OF SAINTS
XI. SOLA SCRIPTURA , THE BIBLE, AND THE RULE OF FAITH
XII. THE BIBLICAL CANON / DEUTEROCANON / “APOCRYPHA”
XIII. LUTHER AND THE BLESSED VIRGIN MARY 
XIV. CAPITAL PUNISHMENT / TOLERATION ISSUES AND THE PEASANTS’ REVOLT
XV. LUTHER’S COARSE AND “VIOLENT” LANGUAGE AND SANCTION OF VULGAR ART
XVI. LUTHER ON MARRIAGE, POLYGAMY, CONCUBINAGE, BIGAMY, CELIBACY, SEXUALITY, AND WOMEN
XVII. LUTHER’S CLINICAL DEPRESSION AND NEUROSES (?)
XVIII. SUPERSTITIONS, SILLINESS, AND SCIENCE
XIX. MISCELLANEOUS AND GENERAL
XX. DEFENSES OF MARTIN LUTHER AGAINST “ANTI-LUTHER” BUM RAPS
XXI. AGREEMENTS WITH, AND COMMENDATIONS OF LUTHER / FAIRLY NEUTRAL STANCE TOWARDS HIM
XXII. CONTROVERSIES CONCERNING MY LUTHER RESEARCH
XXIII. MARTIN LUTHER: PRIMARY AND SECONDARY WORKS AND BIOGRAPHIES ONLINE
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I. WHY LUTHER SEPARATED FROM THE CHURCH / CAUSES OF THE PROTESTANT REVOLT (aka “REFORMATION”)
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Medieval Catholic Corruption: Main Cause of Protestant Revolt? [6-2-03; revised slightly: 1-20-04; 10-10-17]
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Luther Film (2003): Detailed Catholic Critique [10-28-03; abridged with revised links on 3-6-17]
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50 Reasons Why Martin Luther Was Excommunicated [National Catholic Register, 11-23-16]
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Myths and Facts Regarding Tetzel and Indulgences [11-25-16; published in Catholic Herald]
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Critique of Ten Exaggerated Claims of the “Reformation” [10-31-17; its 500th anniversary date]
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DOCUMENTARY: 50 Reasons for Martin Luther’s Excommunication [Lux Veritatis, 5-2-25]
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Luther on the Deaths of Zwingli, St. Thomas More, & St. John Fisher [11-30-07; expanded on 10-31-17]

Martin Luther: “Our manner of life is as evil as is that of the papists” [12-29-07]

Zwingli, Bucer, Oecolampadius: Luther & Lutherans Not Christians [1-10-08]

Did Luther Regret Anything About His “Reformation”? [5-13-08]

Unbridled Sectarianism, Sola Scriptura, Luther, & Calvin [6-24-09]

Luther on Early Lutherans: “Ingrates” Who Deserve God’s “Wrath” [2-28-10] 

Luther’s Disgust Over Protestant Sectarianism and Radical Heresies [3-1-10; abridged and published in the National Catholic Register: 9-8-17] 

Luther on Early Lutheran Degeneracy & Bad Witness [3-2-10]

Was Luther in His Old Age in Agony & Bitter About Lutheranism? [3-3-10] 

Luther’s “Agony” Over Sectarianism (vs. a Lutheran) [3-10-10]

Luther: Monks & Priests More “Earnest” Than Lutherans [11-10-11]

Martin Luther as Initial Cause of Protestant In-Fighting [10-13-17]

Martin Luther vs. Sectarianism and Fanaticism [10-26-22]

Luther: I Was a Better Christian as a Catholic [6-5-24]

Luther: “As Many Sects And Creeds As Heads” (James Swan Misses the Forest for the Trees / Calvin & Melanchthon Embarrassed & Scandalized by Protestant Sectarianism) [6-17-24]

Why Martin Luther Said He Was More Spiritual as a Catholic [National Catholic Register: 6-30-24] 

Luther Feared Lutherans “Even Worse Than Papists” [7-10-24]

Luther: “All” Lutherans “Indulge” In “License” & “Vices” (+ Luther’s ignoring of the biblical motif of “You will know them by their fruits” [Matthew 7:16] ) [7-10-24]

Luther in 1530: “The more and longer it [the Lutheran “faith alone” gospel] is preached, the worse it becomes . . . each one does as he pleases . . . his name is blasphemed . . . those who want to be most evangelical despise him” [Facebook, 11-24-24]

DOCUMENTARY: Civil War Chaos: Luther vs. Other Protestant Leaders, Etc. [Lux Veritatis, 5-4-25]

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“Luther Meets His Match” (Seven Parts, Feb. 2009)
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VI. SOTERIOLOGY (THEOLOGY OF SALVATION, JUSTIFICATION, & SANCTIFICATION) / SOLA FIDE

Luther and the Origin & Nature of “Instant” Salvation [1991]

Baptismal Regeneration: Central Doctrine, According to Luther & Lutheranism [1996]

Faith Alone & Original Sin: Reply to Smalcald Articles [1-30-01]

N. T. Wright and the “New Perspective” on St. Paul: Did Luther Misinterpret Paul’s Soteriology? [Facebook, 5-5-04]

Luther’s Error Concerning Justification (N. T. Wright) [Facebook, 5-19-04]

Luther’s “Snow-Covered Dunghill” (Myth?) [10-5-05]

Luther’s Projection of His Depression & Crises Onto St. Paul [6-1-06]

Dialogue on Luther’s “Getting to a Gracious God” (vs. Lutheran historian “CPA”) [6-4-06]

Martin Luther: Good Works Prove Authentic Faith [4-16-08]

Luther on Theosis & Sanctification [11-23-09]

Luther: God Predestines Reprobation of the Damned [2-27-10]

Martin Luther: Faith Alone is Not Lawless Antinomianism [2-28-10]

Merit & Sanctification: Martin Luther’s Point of View [11-10-14]

Martin Luther and Lutherans on Mortal & Venial Sins [10-30-17]

Luther (Unlike Lutheranism) Taught Double Predestination [1-11-18]

Calvinist Origin of Luther’s (?) “Snow-Covered Dunghill”? [5-14-19]

Martin Luther, Sounding like a Catholic, Concerning Justification [Facebook, 8-13-20]

Luther’s Translation of “Faith Alone” in Romans 3:28 (Also: Did “Early Erasmus” Agree with Luther?) [12-7-22]

Busting a Myth About Martin Luther (Did Luther Call the Justified Man a “Snow-Covered Dunghill”?) [National Catholic Register, 1-13-23]

Luther, James, Faith & Works: Additional Relevant Data [3-7-23]

Sola Fide (Faith Alone) Nonexistent Before the Protestant Revolt in 1517 (Geisler & McGrath) [Catholic365, 10-31-23]

Luther’s “Tower” Justification Idea & Catholicism + Early Catholic Church & St. Thomas Aquinas on Grace Alone (Contra Pelagianism) & Justification [5-28-24]

Luther Grasped “Faith Alone” on a Toilet: “Myth”? [6-20-24]

Works & Salvation: Luther vs. Scripture [7-4-24]

DOCUMENTARY: The MYTH of Luther’s “Snow Covered Dung Hills” + a Theory [Lux Veritatis, 5-3-25]

DOCUMENTARY: Was Martin Luther an Extreme “Faith Alone” Antinomian? [Lux Veritatis, 5-8-25]

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VII. CHRISTOLOGY

Luther & the “Immaculate Purification” of Mary [10-2-10]

Luther & James Swan Blaspheme (Christ’s Sinlessness) [9-10-20]

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VIII. BAPTISM AND OTHER SACRAMENTS

Baptismal Regeneration: Central Doctrine, According to Luther & Lutheranism [1996]

“Man-Centered” Sacramentalism: The Remarkable Incoherence of James White (How Can Martin Luther and St. Augustine Be Christians According to His Definition?) [11-26-03]

Luther: Confirmation is a Sacramental, Not a Sacrament [4-14-08]

Martin Luther on Absolution & Private Confession [4-14-08]

How Many Sacraments: According to Martin Luther? (+ Luther Expert James Swan’s and Luther’s Works Editors’ Confusion as to Luther’s Position) [11-17-18]

What Were the Baptized “Added” to? (Acts 2:41; vs. James White) (“Dr.” [???] White Rejects Catholic & Infant Baptism, Even Though the Church Fathers, Luther, & Calvin Do Not) [9-10-21]

Martin Luther Didn’t “Condemn” the Seven Sacraments; He Only Denied “That They Can Be Proved From the Scriptures” / True Effects of Sacraments [Facebook, 8-21-24]

IX. THE EUCHARIST

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Luther & the Previously Obscure [?] Bible (expanded version, vs. James Swan) [6-15-11]
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Martin Luther on the Exact Nature of Being “Biblical” [11-10-14; revised and expanded on 1-5-20]
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How Martin Luther Invented Sola Scriptura [National Catholic Register, 5-21-24]
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Luther’s Radical Views on the Biblical Canon (His Outrageous Assertions, Protestant Scholars’ Opinions & “Debate” with John Warwick Montgomery) [9-25-04]

Did Luther Deny the Canonicity of Esther? [3-24-07]

Luther’s View of the Book of Esther (Anti-Catholic Attempts to Blame Catholics for a Questionable Luther Citation Passed Down by Three Admiring Protestants) [8-20-11]

Protestant Errors Regarding Luther & the Biblical Canon (and anti-Catholic blaming of Catholic apologists for them) [8-27-11]

James Swan Ignores Protestant Errors on Luther’s Canon (Instead, He Absurdly Blames Catholic Apologists for Historical Errors of Protestant Writers) [expanded “dialogue” edition of the previous article; 8-27-11]

Luther & the Deuterocanon (So-Called “Apocrypha”) [2014]

Martin Luther’s Early Radicalism and Later Traditionalism / Defense of the Book of James (Reply to James Swan) [Facebook, 10-24-24]

Luther’s & Protestants’ Irrational Antipathy Towards the Epistle of James [Facebook, 10-26-24]

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“One other thing I should point out in Dave’s defense. He has, if I recall correctly, previously responded to some of the most extreme anti-Lutheran garbage out there. So, while he’s clearly on the other side of the Tiber from Luther, one should not conclude that his errors in scholarship are somehow solely the result of malice and ill-will toward Luther.” (Anti-Catholic Calvinist “Turretinfan,” 3-1-10, on a Lutheran blog)
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Resources: Martin Luther (by James Swan. Exhibits considerable anti-Catholic bias, but an impressively comprehensive bibliographic resource for locating online Lutheriana)

Six-Volume Philadelphia Edition of Luther’s Works

Luther (Hartmann Grisar, S. J., 1914-1917) [Volumes One / Two / Three / Four / Five / Six]
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Walch Edition of Luther’s Complete Writings (1740-1753) in English (23 volumes)

What Luther Says (ed. Ewald Plass (Vol. 1 / Vol. 2 / Vol. 3)

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 Gila National Forest, New Mexico (May 2012). Photo by Kari Greer [Flickr / CC BY-SA 2.0 license]
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I. Hell and Sheol (Hades) / Damnation & Reprobation / Heretical Annihilationism
II. Universalism / “Hoping All Will be Saved”
III. The Devil (Satan) and Demons
IV. Judgment / Second Coming
V. Last Things (Eschatology) / Prophecies 
VI. Heaven / Souls (Theological Anthropology) / “Soul Sleep” / Resurrection  
VII. Limbo
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  I. Hell and Sheol (Hades) / Damnation & Reprobation / Heretical Annihilationism
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Biblical Evidence for an Eternal Hell [1998]

Jewish and Old Testament Views of Hell and Eternal Punishment [4-14-04]

Dialogue w Agnostic on Basic Differences and Hell [5-17-05]

Replies to Some Skeptical Objections to the Christian Doctrine of Hell (“Religion Is Lies” website) [5-24-06]

Biblical Annihilationism or Universalism? (w Atheist Ted Drange) [9-30-06]

Dialogue w Atheists on Hell & Whether God is Just [12-5-06]

Dialogue on Sheol / Hades (Limbo of the Fathers) and Luke 16 (the Rich Man and Lazarus) with a Baptist (vs. “Grubb”) [2-28-08]

“The Gates of Hell Shall Not Prevail” Against the Church [11-11-08]

Hell: Dialogue with a Philosophy Graduate Student [12-26-08]

Dialogue: Hell & God’s Justice, Part II [1-2-09]

Purgatory is the Waiting Room for Heaven [4-25-09]

Luke 23:43 (Thief on the Cross): “Paradise” = Sheol, Not Heaven, According to Many Reputable Protestant Scholars [5-25-09]

Our Prayers and Souls Ending Up in Heaven or Hell [3-26-14]

Catholic Mystics & Contemplatives on Hell [2014]

Can Hell Actually be Defended? My Shot … [10-7-15]

Atheism & Atheology (Copious Resources, including on hell) [11-5-15]

A Defense of Hell: Philosophical Explanations of its Plausibility, Necessity, and Factuality [12-10-15]

Exchanges with an Atheist on Hell & Skepticism [12-17-15]

Did Jesus Descend to Hell, Sheol, or Paradise After His Death? [National Catholic Register, 4-17-17]

How to Annihilate Three Skeptical Fallacies Regarding Hell [National Catholic Register, 6-10-17]

Lawler vs. Pope Francis #3: The Pope Annihilated Hell? [1-2-18]

Pope Francis, Hell, Phil Lawler, Lies, Damned Lies, . . . [3-30-18]

Hell as a Deterrent: Analogy to Our Legal Systems [10-3-18]

Taylor Marshall’s Whopper: Pope Francis Denies Hellfire? [6-7-19]

Salvation and Eternal Afterlife in the Old Testament [8-31-19]

Salvation and Immortality Are Not Just New Testament Ideas [National Catholic Register, 9-23-19]

Vs. Atheist David Madison #41: God’s a Sadistic Tyrant (Hell)? [12-18-19]

Luke 16 Doesn’t Describe Hell or Purgatory, But Hades [1-16-20]

The Bible Teaches that Hell is Eternal [National Catholic Register, 4-16-20]

Pope Francis’ Satanic, Demonic, & Hellish Views [6-7-21]

Christ’s Descent Into Hades (vs. Francois Turretin) (Biblical and Patristic Support Examined) [9-1-22]

Defense of Immortal, Conscious Souls (vs. Lucas Banzoli): #11 (“Second Death” = “Lake of Fire” = Eternal Torment in Hell. Jesus & Luke Believed in Both Hades and Hell) [11-25-22]

Eternal Hell: 125 Biblical Evidences [12-2-24]

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Dialogue on Hell & the “Possibility” of Universalism [May 2004]

Biblical Annihilationism or Universalism? (w Atheist Ted Drange) [9-30-06]

Did Pope St. John Paul II Teach Universalism? [4-26-11]

Did Julian of Norwich Teach Universalism & Deny Hell? [3-24-14]

Analysis of “Hoping All Will be Saved” / …Hell is Empty” [8-20-15]

Book of Revelation Annihilates Universalism [8-31-15]

Universalism is Annihilated by the Book of Revelation [National Catholic Register, 6-23-19]

Wishing & Desiring For All To Be Saved, Like God Does [1-29-24]

III. The Devil (Satan) and Demons

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The Stupidity and Idiocy of the Devil (Dialogue) [2-23-97 and 4-10-97]

Unbiblical Antipathy to Miracles & Exorcism (vs. Calvin #53) [12-22-09]

Satan Tempting Jesus as a Proof of His Divinity [2015]

Demonic Possession or Epilepsy? (Bible & Science) [2015]

The Devil’s Stupidity & Vanity [3-4-16]

Screwtape on the Neutralization of Effective Apologetics and Divine Callings (National Catholic Register, 2-5-17) [see also, the original 20% longer Facebook version] [1-25-17]

“Withstand”! Satan Exploits Errors & Falsehood for His Nefarious Ends [3-4-17]

Satan is Highly Intelligent—and an Arrogant Idiot   [National Catholic Register, 11-27-17]

Are We Allowed to Rebuke and/or Mock the Devil? [11-30-17]

Satan Referenced 24 Times in Gaudete et Exsultate [4-9-18]

Christians & the Stupidity of Satan (vs. Insulting Humanist) [11-9-18]

7 Takes on Satan’s Persecutions and the Balanced Christian Life [National Catholic Register, 11-24-18]

Seidensticker Folly #36: Disease, Jesus, Paul, Miracles, & Demons [1-13-20]
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Judgment of Nations: A Collection of Biblical Passages [9-21-01]

Judgment of Nations: Biblical Commentary and Reflections [9-21-01]

Reflections on Judgment and Sufficient Knowledge for Salvation [6-7-02]

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Communion of Saints
I. GENERAL
II. INVOCATION AND INTERCESSION OF SAINTS AND ANGELS 
III. VENERATION OF SAINTS AND ANGELS 
IV. VENERATION OF ICONS AND IMAGES (INCLUDING OF GOD) / STATUES / HOLY OBJECTS / HOLY DAYS
V. RELICS
Purgatory and Penance
VI. PURGATORY AND SHEOL (HADES)
VII. PRAYER AND PENANCE FOR THE DEAD
VIII. PRAYER FOR THE DEAD: ST. PAUL AND ONESIPHORUS
IX. SACRAMENT OF PENANCE: CONTRITION, CONFESSION, ABSOLUTION, AND SATISFACTION
X. INDULGENCES
XI. MORTIFICATION, FASTING, ABSTINENCE, ASCETICISM, MONASTICISM, SUFFERING, & REDEMPTIVE SUFFERING
XII. LENT
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I. COMMUNION OF SAINTS: GENERAL
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Classic Reflections on the Communion of Saints [2-17-91; revised and expanded: 12-14-93]
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The Cloud of Witnesses [cartoon tract; art by Dan Grajek, early 90s]
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Communion of Saints: Biblical Introduction & Overview [1995; published in The Catholic Answer (Nov / Dec 1998)]
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The Communion of Saints: All Who Are In Christ [2-17-91; rev. Dec. 1993 and May 1996]
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II. COMMUNION OF SAINTS: INVOCATION AND INTERCESSION OF SAINTS AND ANGELS 
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Asking Saints to Intercede: Teaching of Jesus [2015]

Why Pray to Saints Rather than God? [9-4-15]

Reply to a Lutheran Pastor on Invocation of Saints [12-1-15]

John Calvin Did Not Pray to Philip Melanchthon [9-19-09; revised with retraction, 5-3-16]

Dialogue on Praying to Abraham (Luke 16) [5-22-16]

Prayer to Saints: “New” [?] Biblical Argument [5-23-16]

Treatise on Communion of Saints (Anthony Zarrella) [6-9-16]

Must Catholics Pray to Saints or be Excommunicated? [12-2-16]

Why Would Anyone Pray to Saints Rather Than to God? [National Catholic Register, 1-8-17]

Invocation & Intercession of Saints & Angels: Bible Proof [10-22-16 and 1-9-17]

“Armstrong vs. Geisler” #5: Prayer to Creatures [2-20-17]

Dialogue: Rich Man’s Prayer to Abraham (Luke 16) and the Invocation of Saints (vs. Lutheran Pastor Ken Howes) [5-3-17]

Dialogue on Samuel Appearing to Saul (Witch of Endor) [5-6-17]

Dialogue on Prayer to the Saints and Hades / Sheol [12-19-17]

Prayers to Saints & for the Dead: Six Biblical Proofs [6-8-18]

4 Biblical Proofs for Prayers to Saints and for the Dead [National Catholic Register, 6-16-18]

Angelic Intercession is Totally Biblical [National Catholic Register, 7-1-18]

Why the Bible Says the Prayers of Holy People Are More Powerful [National Catholic Register, 3-19-19]

C. S. Lewis & the Invocation & Communion of Saints [10-10-19]

Vs. James White #13: Jesus Taught Invocation of Saints (And by James White’s “Reasoning,” Jesus Couldn’t be God and was a Blaspheming False Teacher) [11-16-19]

The Saints in Heaven are Quite Aware of Events on Earth (featuring a defense of patron saints) [National Catholic Register, 3-21-20]

Invocation of Saints and Angels (Luke 16 [Lazarus & the Rich Man & Abraham] is One of the Most Unanswerable Arguments in Catholic Apologetics) (vs. Jason Engwer) [5-26-20]

Invocation of Saints: Jesus Allegedly “Calling on Elijah” (vs. Jason Engwer) [6-8-20]

Prayer to Abraham and Dead People in Scripture [National Catholic Register, 6-20-20]

What Christ’s Words on the Cross Tell Us About Elijah and the Saints [National Catholic Register, 8-2-20]

Can Mary Hear “Simultaneous” Prayers of Millions? (vs. Matt Slick) [9-30-20]

Prayer to Creatures Proven from Holy Scripture (vs. Matt Slick) [10-1-20]

How Can a Saint Hear the Prayers of Millions at Once? [National Catholic Register, 10-7-20]

Jason Engwer, Origen, & Intercession of Saints [10-16-20]

Origen and the Intercession of Saints [National Catholic Register, 11-19-20]

Dialogue: Prayer For & To the Dead (w Dr. Lydia McGrew) [2-17-21]

Dialogue on Prayers to Saints & for the Dead [5-29-21]

Prayer to an Angel: An Explicit Biblical Example [11-21-21]

Reply to Jordan Cooper: Invocation of Saints [4-27-22]

Reply to Gavin Ortlund on Praying to the Saints (Including a Reply Regarding the [Blasphemous?] “Excesses of Marian Prayers” from the Protestant Point of View) [5-15-22]

Why Do We Ask Mary to Pray for Us? [National Catholic Register, 5-24-22]

Seven Replies Re Interceding Saints (vs. Lucas Banzoli) [5-25-22]

Answer to Banzoli’s “Challenge” Re Intercession of Saints [9-20-22]

Nutshell Systematic Theology of the Efficacy & Biblical Nature of “Prayers of the Righteous” [Facebook, 9-20-22]

Bible on Praying Straight to God (vs. Lucas Banzoli) [9-21-22]

Reply to Banzoli’s “Analyzing the ‘evidence’ of saints’ intercession” [9-22-22]

Reply to Banzoli’s “Questions for Catholics About Prayer…” [9-23-22]

5 Replies to Questions About Catholic (and Biblical) Prayer [National Catholic Register, 11-30-22]

Dead Saints Interceding (vs. Lucas Banzoli): Including a Back-and-Forth Discussion on Banzoli’s Tragic Denial of the Deity of Christ [2-8-23]

Bible & the Intercession of Saints (vs. Lucas Banzoli) [2-8-23]

John Calvin in Effect Regards Jesus’ Teaching on Prayer to Abraham as “Novel and Impure” [Facebook, 3-8-23] 

Do Petitions to Departed Saints Offend God? [3-20-23]

Jason Engwer vs. the Biblical Case for Invoking Saints [4-22-23]

Invocation of Saints: Jason Engwer Still Out to Sea [7-19-23]

Jesus: Okay to Request Abraham’s Intercession [9-25-23]

Vs. J. Oliveira #3: Mediating Saints [9-28-23]

Vs. J. Oliveira #5: Talking to Dead Saints [10-3-23]

Defense of My NCR Article, “4 Biblical Proofs for Prayers to Saints and for the Dead” [Facebook, 10-7-23]

What Are Saints & Angels in Heaven Doing with Our “Prayers”? [Catholic365, 11-26-23]

Are Saints in Heaven Ignorant and Passive or Extremely Knowledgeable and Active in Charity and Prayer? [Facebook, 12-22-23]

Vs. Turretin #3: Communion Of Saints 3 (Intercession) [12-23-23]

Vs. Turretin #4: Communion Of Saints 4 (Invocation) [12-26-23]

Invoking Saints and Angels: A Nutshell Biblical Proof [Facebook, 12-26-23]

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The Veneration of Angels and Men is Biblical [National Catholic Register, 8-24-17]
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“Graven Images”: Unbiblical Iconoclasm (vs. John Calvin) [Oct. 2012]
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Worshiping God Through Images is Entirely Biblical [National Catholic Register, 12-23-16]
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The Biblical Understanding of Holy Places and Things [National Catholic Register, 4-11-17]
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How Protestant Nativity Scenes Proclaim Catholic Doctrine [12-15-13; expanded for publication at National Catholic Register: 12-17-17]
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Dialogue on Worship of God Via Natural Images (vs. Jim Drickamer) [1-16-17]
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Biblical Evidence for Veneration of Saints and Images [National Catholic Register, 10-23-18]
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Crucifixes: Devotional Aids or Wicked Idols? [National Catholic Register, 1-15-20]
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Golden Calf & Cherubim: Biblical Contradiction? (vs. Dr. Steven DiMattei) [11-23-20]
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My Wedding Ring: Third-Class Relic (+ Examination of Fine Distinctions of Relic Classes) [9-16-15] [+ Facebook discussion: 4 November 2014; my ring touched 100 holy items in the Holy Land]
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Classic Catholic Reflections on Purgatory [1994]

Fictional Dialogue on Purgatory [1995]

25 Bible Passages on Purgatory [1996]

Purgatory: . . . Saved, But Only As Through Fire [4-21-94; rev. May 1996]

Purgatory: A Short Exposition [5-9-02]

A Biblical Argument for Purgatory (Matthew 5:25-26) [10-13-04]

“Catholicism Refuted” (?): “Father” / Purgatory / Statues / Confession (Pt. III) [12-11-04]

Is Purgatory a “Place” or a “Condition”?: Misconceptions From [Eastern Orthodox] Fr. Ambrose About My Opinion (and the Church’s View) / Also: Development and Alleged Historical Revisionism [7-24-05]

Dialogue with Lutherans on Jesus’ Descent Into “Hell” [2-1-07]

Purgatory: Refutation of James White (1 Corinthians 3:10-15) [3-3-07]

Has Limbo Been Relegated to Limbo? [12-28-07]

Luther Believed in Soul Sleep; Thus He Rejected Purgatory [2-9-08]

Dialogue on Sheol / Hades (Limbo of the Fathers) and Luke 16 (the Rich Man and Lazarus) with a Baptist (vs. “Grubb”) [2-28-08]

Luther: Purgatory “Quite Plain” in 2 Maccabees [3-5-09]

Purgatory is the Waiting Room for Heaven [4-25-09]

Luke 23:43 (Thief on the Cross): “Paradise” = Sheol, Not Heaven, According to Many Reputable Protestant Scholars [5-25-09]

50 Bible Passages on Purgatory & Analogous Processes [2009]

John Wesley’s Belief in an Intermediate State After Death [7-13-09]

Purgatory: My Biblical Defense of its Doctrinal Development [9-20-11]

John Wesley’s View of Purgatory and Analogous Processes [2013]

Dialogue with an Evangelical on Purgatory [10-7-13]

Multiple Meanings of “Paradise” in Scripture [1-2-14]

Purgatory in One Verse (1 Corinthians 3:15) [Facebook, 1-29-14]

Catholic Mystics & Contemplatives on Purgatory [2014]

Martin Luther’s Belief in Purgatory (1517-1522, 1528) [11-17-14]

Dialogue w Calvinists on Prayer for the Dead & Purgatory [3-18-15]

Dialogue: Raising of Tabitha from the Dead & Purgatory [March 2015]

50 Biblical Indications That Purgatory is Real [National Catholic Register, 10-24-16]

“Armstrong vs. Geisler” #1: Purgatory (Mt 12:32) [2-17-17]

“Armstrong vs. Geisler” #2: Purgatory (Lk 23:43) [2-17-17]

Does Matthew 12:32 Suggest or Disprove Purgatory? [National Catholic Register, 2-26-17]

Did Jesus Descend to Hell, Sheol, or Paradise After His Death? [National Catholic Register, 4-17-17]

11 Descriptive and Clear Bible Passages About Purgatory [National Catholic Register, 5-7-17]

Purgatory: Exchange with a Presbyterian (Calvinist) [5-11-17]

Armstrong vs. Collins & Walls #7: Unbiblical / Non-Patristic Purgatory? [10-19-17]

Dialogue on Prayer to the Saints and Hades / Sheol [12-19-17]

Reflections on Interceding for the Lost Souls [National Catholic Register, 6-26-18]

C. S. Lewis Believed in Purgatory & Prayer for the Dead [6-22-10; rev. 10-8-19]

Does Time & Place Apply to Purgatory? (vs. James White) [11-6-19]

Luke 16 Doesn’t Describe Hell or Purgatory, But Hades [1-16-20]

Dialogue: Purgatory & 2 Maccabees 12:39-45 [11-8-20]

Purgatory in the Bible (vs. Calvin #60) [1-15-21]

Reply to Gavin Ortlund on Purgatory [5-12-22]

Vs. J. Oliveira #6: Bible & Purgatory [10-3-23]

Purgatory: Biblical Indications (chapter five [“Purgatory”] — pp. 239-252 — of my 2009 book, Bible Truths for Catholic Truths: A Source Book for Apologists and Inquirers) [10-18-23]
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VIDEO: Does this Bible Verse DESTROY the doctrine of Purgatory (or does it teach it?) [Kenny Burchard, Catholic Bible Highlights, utilizing my biblical research, 9-1-24]
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Purgatory: 110 Related Biblical Themes [10-31-24; revised 11-2-24]
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Jewish 1st Century Belief in Purgatory (Paul Hoffer) [9-20-11]

Raising of Tabitha: Proof of Purgatory (Tony Gerring) [3-20-15]

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Baptizing the Dead? (Odd Verse 1 Corinthians 15:29) [6-5-02]

Baptized for the Dead: The “UnProtestant” Verse (1 Cor 15:29) [2004]

New (?) Biblical Argument: Prayers for the Dead [2004]

“Catholicism Refuted” (?): “Father” / Purgatory / Statues / Confession (Pt. III) [12-11-04]

Prayer for the Dead & Retroactive Prayer (Luther & Protestants) [3-22-05]

Does God Forbid All Contact with the Dead? [6-23-07]

John Wesley Believed in Prayer for the Dead [7-13-09]

Prayer for the Dead (vs. Calvin #57) [2012]

Fasting for the Dead in the Old Testament (Not Unlike Praying) [11-4-12]

Dialogue on Prayer for the Dead & the Bible [11-5-12]

Dialogue: Jesus, Peter, Elijah & Elisha Prayed for the Dead (+ a discussion on apologetics methodology and effectiveness) [6-9-13] 

“Pray for the Dead Like Paul Did!” (mock Church billboard) [Facebook, 2-10-14]

Dialogue w Calvinists on Prayer for the Dead & Purgatory [3-18-15]

“Armstrong vs. Geisler” #4: Prayer for the Dead [2-20-17]

Prayers to Saints & for the Dead: Six Biblical Proofs [6-8-18]

4 Biblical Proofs for Prayers to Saints and for the Dead [National Catholic Register, 6-16-18]

Reflections on Interceding for the Lost Souls [National Catholic Register, 6-26-18]

Dialogue w Lutherans: “Proxy Baptism”? (1 Cor 15:29) [12-28-18]

C. S. Lewis Believed in Purgatory & Prayer for the Dead [6-22-10; rev. 10-8-19]

The Anglican Newman on Prayer for the Dead (1838): It was as well-attested in the early Church as the Canon of Scripture [10-11-19]

Jesus, Peter, Elijah and Elisha All Prayed for the Dead [National Catholic Register, 2-23-20]

Dialogue: Purgatory & 2 Maccabees 12:39-45 (vs. Luke Wayne) [11-8-20]

Dialogue: Acts 9:40 and Prayers for (not to) the Dead (vs. Luke Wayne) [11-11-20]

Dialogue: Prayer For & To the Dead (w Dr. Lydia McGrew) [2-17-21]

Dialogue on Prayers to Saints & for the Dead [5-29-21]

Prayer for the Dead: Brief Exchange with a Friendly Agnostic [Facebook, 3-9-23]

Prayers to and for the Dead (vs. Jason Engwer): Did Jesus & Peter Talk to Dead People Before They Rose from the Dead, and — Along with Elijah and Elisha — Pray for the Dead, or Only Ask Them to Move After They Were Raised? (+ Part 2) [3-13-23]

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Paul Prayed for Dead Onesiphorus (Protestant Commentaries) [7-14-09]

Cardinal Newman on Onesiphorus and Prayer for the Dead [Facebook, 3-18-15]

St. Paul Prayed for a Dead Man: Onesiphorus [8-19-15]

St. Paul Prayed for Onesiphorus, Who Was Dead [National Catholic Register, 3-19-17]

Was Onesiphorus Dead When Paul Prayed for Him?: Data from 16 Protestant Commentaries (1992-2016) [3-20-17]

Paul & Dead Onesiphorus (vs. Steve Hays) [10-10-23]

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I. General, Introductory, & Miscellaneous
II. Baptism
III. Bible and Tradition / Canon of the Bible
IV. Ecclesiology
V. Ecumenism
VI. Eschatology (Last Things and Afterlife) 
VII. Eucharist and Sacrifice of the Mass
VIII. God, Theology and Doctrine of
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X. Liturgy / The Mass
 XI. Mary: The Blessed Virgin
XII. St. John Henry Cardinal Newman
XIII. Orthodoxy, Eastern
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XV. Protestantism
XVI. Purgatory
XVII. Saints, Communion of
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XIX. Usury
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James Swan is Clueless Re Purgatory & Development [7-5-24]

 
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“Live Chat” Debate on Mary (vs. James White) [12-29-00]
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The “High”, Glorious Mariology of Cardinal Newman (Foreword to The Mariology of Cardinal Newman, by Rev. Francis J. Friedel) [4-11-19]
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XII. St. John Henry Cardinal Newman
 
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Vatican I on Papal Infallibility: “Ultramontanism”? [3-29-04]

Cardinal Newman’s Philosophical & Epistemological Commitments [10-19-04]

Absurd Anti-Newman Rhetoric in Anti-Catholic Polemics [3-19-02 and 9-27-05]

Cdl. Newman, Vatican I & II, & Papal Infallibility (Clarification) [12-10-05]

The Certitude of Faith According to Cardinal Newman [9-30-08]

Newman on Theological Liberalism (Tracts of the Times No. 73) [3-5-11]

Anglican Newman on the Falsity of Perspicuity (Clearness) of Scripture [3-7-11]

John Henry Newman on Papal Infallibility Prior to 1870 (Classic Anti-Catholic Lies: George Salmon, James White, David T. King et al) [8-11-11]

The Quotable Newman (Dave Armstrong): Foreword by Joseph Pearce [9-5-12]

Books by Dave Armstrong: The Quotable Newman (2012) [10-12-12]

Dialogue on Newman’s Kingsley / Apologia Controversy [11-30-12]

Books by Dave Armstrong: The Quotable Newman, Vol. II [8-20-13]

The Quotable Newman (Vol. I, II): Complete Index of Correspondents [8-20-13]

Books by Dave Armstrong: Cardinal Newman: Q & A in Theology, Church History, and Conversion [2-24-15]

Cardinal Newman’s Conversion Odyssey, in His Own Words (1839-1845) [3-19-15]

St. John Henry Newman on Catholic Mariology [May 2015]

Introduction to my book: Cardinal Newman: Q & A in Theology, Church History, & Conversion [5-23-15]

Blessed Cardinal Newman on Mary’s Immaculate Conception [2015]

Implicit (Extra-Empirical) Faith, According to JH Newman [12-18-15]

Blessed John Henry Cardinal Newman: “Father” of Vatican II (Old Links Page) [4-18-16]

Armstrong vs. Collins & Walls #1: Newman’s Mariology [10-17-17]

The “High”, Glorious Mariology of Cardinal Newman (Foreword to The Mariology of Cardinal Newman, by Rev. Francis J. Friedel) [4-11-19]

Dr. Echeverria: Francis Wants Development, Not Revolution [5-28-19]

Kwasniewski vs. Cdl. Newman Re Pope- & Council-Bashing [12-3-20]

Cardinal Newman on Catholic Conversion & Converts [11-19-20]

St. John Henry Cardinal Newman on Apologetics [11-19-20]

Irish Ecclesiastical Record vs. Anti-Catholic George Salmon, Pt. 2 . . . In Which Dr. Salmon Accuses Cardinal Newman of Lying Through His Teeth in His Essay on Development, & Dr. Murphy Magnificently Defends Infallibility and Doctrinal Development Against Gross Caricature [3-12-23]

Irish Ecclesiastical Record vs. Anti-Catholic George Salmon, Pt. 3 . . . In Which Our Sophist-Critic Massively Misrepresents Cardinal Newman and Utterly Misunderstands the Distinction Between Implicit and Explicit Faith [3-12-23]

Irish Ecclesiastical Record vs. Anti-Catholic George Salmon, Pt. 4 . . . in which Dr. Salmon Sadly Reveals Himself to be a Hyper-Rationalistic Pelagian Heretic, and Engages in Yet More Misrepresentation of Development of Doctrine and Cardinal Newman’s Statements and Positions [3-15-23]

Bp. Butler’s Refutation of Anti-Catholic George Salmon, Pt. 1: Doctrinal Development; St. Cardinal Newman’s Views on Papal Infallibility & the Immaculate Conception; St. Irenaeus & Tradition [3-22-23]

Newman on Infallibility & Vatican I (vs. One Peter Five) [Catholic365, 11-24-23]

Newman & Early Church Papal Infallibility & Supremacy (Reply to Jordan Cooper’s Miscomprehensions of St. Cardinal Newman’s Views on the Development of the Papacy & the 1870 Dogma) [Part I] [1-2-25]

Reply to Jordan Cooper on Newman & Development [Part II] [1-2-25]

Patristic Development of a Sinless Mary (Cdl. Newman) [2-6-25]

Newman, Sinless Mary, & Development (vs. Javier Perdomo) . . . Concentrating on the New Eve Analogy in the Church Fathers and its Full Implication Regarding Mary’s Freedom from Actual and Original Sin [2-12-25]

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Visiting G.K. Chesterton, C.S. Lewis, J.R.R. Tolkien, and John Henry Newman: An England Pilgrimage (Photos) [extraordinary web page by Brandon Vogt]

National Institute for Newman Studies: Digital Collections Newman Reader (virtually all Cardinal Newman books for free in nice HTML format)

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XIII. Orthodoxy, Eastern
 
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XIV. The Papacy
 
The Development of the Papacy (St. John Henry Cardinal Newman) [Facebook, 1997]
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St. Thomas Aquinas and the Origins of the Doctrine of Papal Infallibility (Emmett O’Regan, Nova et Vetera, Winter 2025, Vol. 23, No. 1)
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XV. Protestantism

 
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XVI. Purgatory
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XVII. Saints, Communion of
 

Veneration of Saints and Its Doctrinal Development: Dialogue with an Inquiring Baptist [12-1-08]

 
XVIII. Soteriology (Theology of Salvation)
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XIX. Usury

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Did the Church Change Its Doctrine on Usury? (Jay W. Richards, Crisis Magazine, 12-8-14) [see also related in-depth discussion on my Facebook page]
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The Red Herring of Usury (David Palm, This Rock, Sep. 1997)
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